Supercharger - Gustine, CA (12 V2 stalls)

[rfmurphy81]

@henryp,
I stopped by on 11/26 at around 5pm as I was driving a bit more spirited between Dublin and Harris Ranch so I just wanted to add 20-30 miles as an extra buffer just in case. I rolled in at 46% and left at 56% within the span of 6 minutes. Here's a chart showing my kW and battery percentage for each minute I was plugged in:

It seemed to perform as expected to me. Looking at my Harris Ranch chart, it seems to be similar when looking at the same battery percentage range.

 

[henryp]

Before I left Gustine, I was charging at about 24kW, but then my battery was around 90%. I wanted enough margin to avoid Dublin completely (would have been a traffic nightmare getting home).

How are you collecting your charging stats?

 

[rfmurphy81]

The raw data is captured via my TeslaFi.com account. I copy it over to an Excel, add a formula to properly calculate the kW (which isn't currently captured as a field) then put out a chart.

TeslaFi has been great for the data nerd in me. I believe it's not free any more but it's totally worth the cost.

 

[Blup85]

On the way back to Northern-Northern California (You know, where the water comes from haha!), we had a late dinner at Harris Ranch and charged up, only to have the kids need a bathroom break at this stop only 30 minutes down the road, so I took advantage of topping off here and noticed I was only getting 60kw when the battery was around 70% with no other cars around. Is that a normal or are the chargers limited since they are new? BTW, trying to supercharge at any location in LA (Family Disneyland trip) was not successful, I'd be more than willing to pay a little for charging while so far away from home for the convenience. Charging on the I5 was awesome, seemed like plenty of chargers at Harris Ranch and Manteca. Disneyland hotel only had 110v and it took 48 hours to get me a charge to get back to Tejon Ranch, but I was thankful to have it since supercharging was not available. I look forward to the new paying customers to hopefully expand the supercharging network even further. I didn't have the patience to wait in line to supercharge and just moved on.

 

[ecarfan]

noticed I was only getting 60kw when the battery was around 70% with no other cars around. Is that a normal

Sounds normal to me.

 

[rfmurphy81]

On the way back to Northern-Northern California (You know, where the water comes from haha!), we had a late dinner at Harris Ranch and charged up, only to have the kids need a bathroom break at this stop only 30 minutes down the road, so I took advantage of topping off here and noticed I was only getting 60kw when the battery was around 70% with no other cars around. Is that a normal or are the chargers limited since they are new? BTW, trying to supercharge at any location in LA (Family Disneyland trip) was not successful, I'd be more than willing to pay a little for charging while so far away from home for the convenience. Charging on the I5 was awesome, seemed like plenty of chargers at Harris Ranch and Manteca. Disneyland hotel only had 110v and it took 48 hours to get me a charge to get back to Tejon Ranch, but I was thankful to have it since supercharging was not available. I look forward to the new paying customers to hopefully expand the supercharging network even further. I didn't have the patience to wait in line to supercharge and just moved on.

Yes, seems normal.

Off topic but, with the new Santa Ana and Buena Park superchargers, your future Disneyland trips can be a little less worrisome for finding a place to charge. I would recommend writing to Disney to add destination charging at the hotel, though. They have 64 ChargePoint chargers at the Mickey & Friends parking structure (for theme park visitors), but they probably should add more specifically at the hotel for overnight guests.

 

[Zeromus-X]

Used the Gustine charger last night. Pulled into 1A and was getting no power for nearly five minutes -- the car would go up to abour 4kW and then drop back down immediately, and my phone said I was getting voltage but zero amps. Moved to 3B and got the same thing. Moved to 4A and got the same thing. Decided to go eat dinner and hope for the best, and after about seven minutes of watching the app, it finally jumped up to charging levels.

Weird, but hey, it worked and I wasn't stranded, and the pea soup wasn't bad.

 

[MP3Mike]

Used the Gustine charger last night. Pulled into 1A and was getting no power for nearly five minutes -- the car would go up to abour 4kW and then drop back down immediately,

Sounds like your battery may have been too cold to charge...

 

[ecarfan]

Used the Gustine charger last night. Pulled into 1A and was getting no power for nearly five minutes -- the car would go up to abour 4kW and then drop back down immediately, and my phone said I was getting voltage but zero amps. Moved to 3B and got the same thing. Moved to 4A and got the same thing. Decided to go eat dinner and hope for the best, and after about seven minutes of watching the app, it finally jumped up to charging levels.

What battery percentage level and or remaining range did you have when you first plugged in to that Supercharger?

How many miles had you driven to get to that location?

 

[Zeromus-X]

What battery percentage level and or remaining range did you have when you first plugged in to that Supercharger? How many miles had you driven to get to that location?

I left Oakland with 39%, stopped in Dublin for a few minutes to get a boost to make it to Gustine with 3%. Right around 100 miles, all highway 55-75 mph. Outside temp was around 45 degrees (F).

It's the only time I've seen a supercharger act this way and I use them *a lot* (my July S70 has almost 12,000 miles). The fact that it happened at every stall, and didn't happen at neither Dublin nor my destination (the Doubletree in Fresno, which has Tesla chargers), pointed to the site being an issue as opposed to something wrong with the car.

I've supercharged twice since it happened on Monday (once in Fresno, once in Manteca) and have not experienced it again.

 

[nikeykid]

I left Oakland with 39%, stopped in Dublin for a few minutes to get a boost to make it to Gustine with 3%. Right around 100 miles, all highway 55-75 mph. Outside temp was around 45 degrees (F).

It's the only time I've seen a supercharger act this way and I use them *a lot* (my July S70 has almost 12,000 miles). The fact that it happened at every stall, and didn't happen at neither Dublin nor my destination (the Doubletree in Fresno, which has Tesla chargers), pointed to the site being an issue as opposed to something wrong with the car.

I've supercharged twice since it happened on Monday (once in Fresno, once in Manteca) and have not experienced it again.

check out this thread - someone else that plugged in with less than 5% at SC had to wait for a trickle charge before the supercharge started: Low Battery Supercharging - 0 Kw and 90 minute charge time

 

[nikeykid]

i'm going to be visiting this SC for the first time on my way to disneyland over the weekend.

 

[ecarfan]

make it to Gustine with 3%

I believe you saw that very slow initial charging rate in all stalls because your battery was very low and air temps were cool.

It's the only time I've seen a supercharger act this way and I use them *a lot*

How often to you arrive at a Supercharger with your battery at 3%?

Note: if this turns into an extended discussion of charge rates at very low SOC that's okay but I will split the discussion into a new thread.

 

[PLUS EV]

Twice I have arrived at a supercharger with 3 and 8 miles respectively and never experienced a reduced charging rate. Don't remember exact details but temps were about 50F and 80F respectively and both times was up over 100kW almost immediately.

 

[MP3Mike]

Maybe in the newer firmware versions Tesla has changed the behavior of low SoC charging to decrease the damage to the batteries?

 

[PLUS EV]

Maybe in the newer firmware versions Tesla has changed the behavior of low SoC charging to decrease the damage to the batteries?

Sorry I should have mentioned that I took delivery 3 months ago and both of these occurred when the car was about 2 months old. Also I had just driven a 200+ miles stretch to drain it so car was warm.

 

[Zeromus-X]

Mine is also a refresh (late June). So we've got that in common.

I arrived at this Supercharger again today, this time from Santa Cruz starting around 51% to arrive with about 18%. Did not exhibit the same behavior and immediately fired right up.

 

[nikeykid]

i was here this morning around 11am, had a great charge. didn't see another tesla. forgot to look at the kw but it was going at 290+ mph for a while. restaurant is decent too.

 

[nikeykid]

On my return trip, three other teslas, was drawing 78-85 kw average. I like this SC.

 

[Bruinfan]

Arrived at noon, one car present. With 20%. Drew 120 kw. Charged to 100% in one hour. 5 cars when i left.