Astrochimp
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"Temporarily Closed" due to inspections not happening? Is the City of Tukwila intentionally slow-walking this supercharger? Is that why opening was so delayed?
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Supercharger - Tukwila, WA
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I swung by this morning about 9AM and all the chargers were shut down. They were resetting all of the wheel stops. Don't know when it will be back up.
Eric
I see that you are Brave enough to ask questions.
I may be less divisive to choose a different strategy.
I stopped here during the period when they were operating before they were shut down. The wheel stops were too close to the chargers and unless common sense was used you would collide with the charger before your wheels touched the wheel stop. So I am assuming they needed to reposition the wheels stops. The charger is back online now and charging cars as of today!
Every municipality has their own rules, and updates them over time (Arlington is 5 years old).
Wheel stops? Just depends on what local inspectors require. State, county, city and rural areas. NEC has a flavor on some of this but it's constantly changing. I engineer PV power systems. Grid tied and off grid. It's like constantly changing the deck chairs on the Titanic!
Saw this going up last fall. Was in the area and needed to stop at this charger for like 15 min in order to make it home (back up to Monroe).
Unfortunately, it looks like Hertz has completely taken over this charger with their rental model 3s. All 16 charger spaces were taken when we arrived, with 2-3 people already waiting on each side of the charger for a spot to open up. 80% of the cars were driven by people with Hertz jackets on, and they were all getting out and hanging out with each other while their cars filled up. They took their time too, seemed they all charge up near full and didn't mind that there were a lot of people waiting. I probably wouldn't have been as frustrated if I didn't have my wife and 5 month old with me just trying to get home.
Unfortunately, it looks like Hertz has completely taken over this charger with their rental model 3s. All 16 charger spaces were taken when we arrived, with 2-3 people already waiting on each side of the charger for a spot to open up. 80% of the cars were driven by people with Hertz jackets on, and they were all getting out and hanging out with each other while their cars filled up. They took their time too, seemed they all charge up near full and didn't mind that there were a lot of people waiting. I probably wouldn't have been as frustrated if I didn't have my wife and 5 month old with me just trying to get home.
Mrbrock
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So 80% of 16 is at least 12 stalls. That’s a lot of people at a minimum of $19/hr. I would be curious what their staffing is like if they have that many people that can be offsite at once.
And hopefully this isn’t the case with the 100,000 other hertz cars that will all clog SCs like this. I get that overnight L2 charging doesn’t allow them to turn around a car in an hour or two but seems like Tesla should limit fleet cars to 25% of a site at any given time, especially if there is a line.
Well, my hope is that this is the time of day they all chose to go hit the Supercharger, and it's not like this all day. Hopefully not happening every day too, but wouldn't be surprised if it was due to the number of model 3s they have acquired.
My guess is that Tesla gave them a good deal on supercharging (free or heavily discounted) to close the deal with Hertz, and they are taking full advantage.
Today, Tues Jan 10. When I first arrived it was about 1 or 130pm PST. Which, if this just happens to be the time they send their employees over to fill em up, could be worse right? Aren't rush hour/commuting hours when most superchargers are busiest?
Mrbrock
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Its almost like they just got a delivery. Having that many needing to be charged at the same time seems odd. I'd think they'd rush them over to recharge once one is returned so they can get them back out on the road again. Waiting til Tuesday at 1 seems very odd.
Unless they supercharge them immediately after they are returned, the batteries are most certainly cold-soaked too, which sucks for charging speeds. All in all, this sounds like a recipe for disaster. They should obviously have their own supercharger, not be using the public one.
TunaBug
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The problem is how to get this onto Tesla's radar. Once it is, its probably one database query over charging logs and fleet ownership to find if/when a single owner is hogging a site. But Hertz may fix this on their own: paying hourly wages for somebody to drive to the site and sit with the car has to wreak havoc on $/kWh; that might be sufficient pressure for them to build their own chargers.
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