Eh, no. This was supposed to be a new high-resolution radar for autonomous driving. Green The Only even found some hints on that in Tesla's firmware.
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Eh, no. This was supposed to be a new high-resolution radar for autonomous driving. Green The Only even found some hints on that in Tesla's firmware.
Tesla is adding a new '4D' radar with twice the range for self-driving
We’ve learned that Tesla is looking to add a new “4D” radar with twice the range of its current radar...
this is a really long way to say that "yes, radar less operation is currently degraded and so radar will kept being used when available".I don't think this is proof nor the "obvious" interpretation. See my (admittedly speculative bit IMO reasonable) post above, and below is an alternative explanation based on that:
Please understand that I'm neither defending nor condemning this course of action because I don't really know the specifics. I am saying that no interpretation, including mine, is obvious or proven. We're all free to assume good vs. bad motives that may inform our customer opinions and predictions.
- Tesla presently has long-established AP features and modes that, for better or worse, incorporated and somewhat relied on radar.
- They have just now produced a large batch of cars without the radar module, cars that were undeliverable awaiting a mysterious update.
- I'm postulating this radar deletion, this early on, was not the preferred plan and was forced upon them by supply issues.
- Or maybe not absolutely forced but also opportunistically embraced & mandated by Elon, whichever.
- Consequently they've had to rush the re-writing of AP code sans radar, superseding the prior plan to roll out Pure Vision for City Streets beta and, only later, retrofit it into existing AP features under less-rushed conditions.
- So this would explain why they are restricting the operational envelope of older AP features. Under the circumstances, they're balancing the need to get the on-hold inventory of cars into a usable & deliverable state, against the concerns of deploying replacement AP software with less qualification testing than anyone would normally wish to see.
- The reduced AP-feature envelope is intended to be a temporary compromise pending additional testing and possibly tweaking.
- It is not obvious proof that the vision-based rewrite is ultimately inferior and will be a "degraded experience" long-term. It may or may not be, but at this point all we can say is that it's new, mandating extra cautions in this obviously
pressured deployment.
Yes, it will be available by the end of 2016, possibly 3 months later. Check your calendar!
It's clearly the sign of a company very focused on human machine interfaces and safety critical systems to warn you once every minute that the system is unavailable but might work next time you get in the car.
Karpathy also did not say that vision could not be augmented by other sensors to make it even better. He just said it was data rich and because it never drops attention, it can be better than a human. There is nothing here saying that vision only is the best solution, just that it is feasible. Nor is he saying the cameras and computers on a current Tesla are sufficient.
This is a common misunderstanding of public companies, and one I had for a while too. However, They do not have to focus on maximizing profit, as long as they make it clear that is not their goal:
Even if max profits are the goal, the timeframe here matters. Removing features that maximizes current quarter profits but eats at brand trust or customer satisfaction are not always long term success stories.
You’re right, I said nearly every competitor, then later said my wife’s car (which is also a competitor). My apologies for using big words.you didn’t say your wife’s car. You said nearly every competitor. There’s a difference. Also, you said Multiple features. So now it’s only one feature, that isn’t missing, only limited to driving fast (just not dangerously fast)
so, let’s not overstate things brodensky.
