Spidey616
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TBH this is why I placed my order in July. $100 to lock in price and try to thread the needle for the incentives seemed like a good idea to me.
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Tesla EV Tax Credits coming back?
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Yep. Ordered in June back when this was supposed to be wrapped up this summer/august/september... I've delayed as much as I can and have a 12/1 hold date. Hoping they pass and when the hold is released my EDD is in Jan. Seems... wishful 
t.e.s.l.a_dude
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Do you know how many times you can delay?Yep. Ordered in June back when this was supposed to be wrapped up this summer/august/september... I've delayed as much as I can and have a 12/1 hold date. Hoping they pass and when the hold is released my EDD is in Jan. Seems... wishful
Well it doesn't look like it is getting voted on this week: In blow to Biden, Joe Manchin will not commit to backing $1.75 trillion spending bill
I think Tesla reps make it up as they go. I waited until my EDD got close, held for a month, and then later asked for another hold. The rep had to ask his mgr and call me back. They gave me about 6 more weeks, I think. I didn't keep track of all the dates. I think initially a rep told me 3 months. Another one told me a hold would could put my deliver to April. Another one threatened to cancel my order. They're all over the place. I wouldn't be surprised if they cancelled the ability to put a delivery on hold.
BTW, you can always click "I'm ready" and take sooner. Just ask for as much as you can get.
RHinCT
Member
I'm just coming in on this and haven't read all the way back. I apologize in advance if this has been covered.
I found a reference that said According to the latest text of the bill, the new benefit could only be used on cars that cost up to $55,000, vans that cost up to $64,000, and pick-up trucks that cost up to $75,000.
Looking it up in that copy of the full bill posted a page or two back, I found this a bit on page 1243, line 12, thru 1244, line 4:
If the Model Y is classified as Other (a car, not an SUV) that $55,000 limit is below the current price of the cheapest Y, the Long Range.
If it is classified as an SUV the $69.000 limit is no problem.
I found a reference that said According to the latest text of the bill, the new benefit could only be used on cars that cost up to $55,000, vans that cost up to $64,000, and pick-up trucks that cost up to $75,000.
Looking it up in that copy of the full bill posted a page or two back, I found this a bit on page 1243, line 12, thru 1244, line 4:
If the Model Y is classified as Other (a car, not an SUV) that $55,000 limit is below the current price of the cheapest Y, the Long Range.
If it is classified as an SUV the $69.000 limit is no problem.
It was talked about earlier, MY counts as SUV so we're good if you don't add FSD.
Fluffhead
Member
They recently told me I can go on hold once and after 90 days on hold they had the right to cancel but didn't mean they necessarily would.
RHinCT
Member
My basic MY LR was ordered at the end of July so it comes in under the $69k line even with FSD. But my ED is this year, November 26 - December 24. Now I need to find out about the possibility of a delay.
t.e.s.l.a_dude
Member
Should be no issue for you to put a hold if you are not in a hurry to get the car ASAP.
Yup. Same here. Ordered end April at $6K below current MYLR price (was annoyed at the time about the price rising $1K over when I'd test driven the MY!). Not going to lie... it was certainly tempting to give into the urge for instant gratification but I haven't been in an urgent need for a new car as my current 2010 sedan is doing fine and I don't do a whole lot of driving since I've moved to remote work. I ended up finally completing my profile last week when the price for the MYLR went up $2K. EDD is probably going to be towards the latter part of Q1 2022, so if the credits come to fruition, I should be in good shape.
TSLY
Member
As my old pappy used to say, "one in the hand is worth two in the bush."
I consider myself fortunate to have taken delivery of a July order in a timely manner affording me enough time to sell my 2019 BMW 540i lease for a $3K+ profit and attaining $14,154 in real or potential savings on the purchase of my new MY. The Tesla cost me under $50K out of pocket including taxes and fees. I'll take a tax credit if passed retroactively but I already consider the purchase of my new Tesla an embarrassment of riches.
$ 3204 - BMW Profit
$ 375 - BMW Disposition
$ 672 - BMW Registration
$ 1500 - EV Credit
$ 110 - Premium Connectivity
$ 500 - Supercharger Miles
$ 3000 - MY Price increase
$ 293 - Tax on increase
$ 4500 - (interest self financing)
$14,154 (Savings)
I consider myself fortunate to have taken delivery of a July order in a timely manner affording me enough time to sell my 2019 BMW 540i lease for a $3K+ profit and attaining $14,154 in real or potential savings on the purchase of my new MY. The Tesla cost me under $50K out of pocket including taxes and fees. I'll take a tax credit if passed retroactively but I already consider the purchase of my new Tesla an embarrassment of riches.
$ 3204 - BMW Profit
$ 375 - BMW Disposition
$ 672 - BMW Registration
$ 1500 - EV Credit
$ 110 - Premium Connectivity
$ 500 - Supercharger Miles
$ 3000 - MY Price increase
$ 293 - Tax on increase
$ 4500 - (interest self financing)
$14,154 (Savings)
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FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
We knew this would come up at the COP26, aka the United Nations Climate Change Conference UK 2021.
electrek.co
"Representatives from the EU and its member states Poland, Sweden, Spain, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium, Cyprus, Ireland, Malta, Finland, Romania, and Greece have written a letter to US legislators arguing elements of the proposed EV rebate plan are unfair to their own manufacturers. The objections – which both Mexico and Canada have voiced as well – don’t brandish the mother-joke-grade provocation of “protectionism,” but do argue requirements in the payback offer put “US trading partners at a disadvantage.”
"They aren’t alone in claiming the scheme is crafted to primarily benefit Detroit’s Big Three. EV giant Tesla isn’t happy about the union stipulation of the proposal. Toyota and other foreign-origin companies that similarly tend to base their US manufacturing in non-union states are protesting the plan. Several of those firms have begun lobbying California’s senators with arguments that the proposal undermines the interests of auto employees in their state."
Foreign ambassadors protest Biden's US- and union-built EV rebate requirements
A group of foreign ambassadors oppose elements of Biden's Build Back Better plan limiting rebates to US- and union-built EVs.
electrek.co
"Representatives from the EU and its member states Poland, Sweden, Spain, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium, Cyprus, Ireland, Malta, Finland, Romania, and Greece have written a letter to US legislators arguing elements of the proposed EV rebate plan are unfair to their own manufacturers. The objections – which both Mexico and Canada have voiced as well – don’t brandish the mother-joke-grade provocation of “protectionism,” but do argue requirements in the payback offer put “US trading partners at a disadvantage.”
"They aren’t alone in claiming the scheme is crafted to primarily benefit Detroit’s Big Three. EV giant Tesla isn’t happy about the union stipulation of the proposal. Toyota and other foreign-origin companies that similarly tend to base their US manufacturing in non-union states are protesting the plan. Several of those firms have begun lobbying California’s senators with arguments that the proposal undermines the interests of auto employees in their state."
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Falcon73
Member
Me too. Per another post I made, I'm reaching out to my SA for the process of a hold. It's ironic that now that my EDD has been moved up so much that I want to move it back again. Depending on what Congress does it may be moot, of course.
Falcon73
Member
Well, here's what my SA said. I don't like how this sounds. What's a match? Cancel my order and buy something at an inflated cost in January? If so, that sounds like a big loser.
Spidey616
Member
Match is when you get a VIN I believe. Your SA is suggesting a similar one to mine. Don’t go on hold but unmatch if you receive a vin. That’s the current path I’m going with.
t.e.s.l.a_dude
Member
I might have jumped the gun too early by placing the hold before the VIN was assigned. I'll keep you updated on what happens after the hold is removed.
Manchin doesn’t seem interested in voting on anything at all. Chanced of getting anything at all dropped some yesterday.
This morning I received an email threatening cancellation if they don't hear from me by 11/16. This is further proof to me that they are just stumbling forward as I have a hold until 12/1. I emailed this info back to them, since they can't see it. 
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