Could they mean this one?
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Could they mean this one?
I would love to smoke whatever "hopium" that guy is having. So we can move on from the weeks of depressing stock prices.I see two problems with his thoughts here-
1) For most of it he runs the math pricing the bot at 2.5 to 5 times higher than Tesla themselves says they intend to sell it for.
2) All his premises start with "Tesla has a fully working, does everything a human can, robot" which... they don't. It's like the people who start with "Ok, so with L5 FSD Tesla can make X dollars"... well, sure... If I had things that don't exist I also could make more money. I don't think there's ANYBODY who doesn't think "L5 is worth a ton of cash" or "Humanoid robots that can all the jobs humans can are worth a ton of cash". The question is who, and when, will have them reasonably for sale. Both might well be Tesla (though certainly not this year for either), but as FSD as shown, sometimes things take a lot longer than initially thought.
All that also ignores the massive social and economic impact of suddenly almost nobody has a job- so who is buying those tens of millions of iphones the robots are making? But that's another topic I think.
Earnings call: Bot to ship to customers in 2025
Unless they first ship some to themselves.Well... no...
Earnings call Elon "thinks" there's a "good chance" of shipping "some" in 2025.
Much like he's thought there was a good chance of autonomous driving every year since 2017.
Which puts the most optimistic NOT crazy mass production prediction at 2026 earliest.
Forgive me if this is a repeat question- I did a quick search and nothing jumped out at me. Can someone help me understand how the development of a humanoid robot applies to Tesla's overall mission statement (To Accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy)?
Forgive me if this is a repeat question- I did a quick search and nothing jumped out at me. Can someone help me understand how the development of a humanoid robot applies to Tesla's overall mission statement (To Accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy)?
Solar (wind) renewable energy > grid > bot > work > goods (efficient)
vs
Lots of inputs (including fossil fuel derived) > food > human + lots more fossil fuel inputs > work > goods
Yeah, I'd seen this before and remembered it was akin to a non-answer from Elon. I was just wondering if either Elon or Tesla has done anything to amend or clarify this since then. Doesn't seem so?AI day video this exact thing is addressed:
go to 2:34:25 in the video- guy asks how Optimius fits with mission statement...Elons answer kinda almost feels like he hadn't even considered it himself until then, and he admits it kinda doesn't precisely fit and maybe they should change mission statement "making the future awesome" or something.
All work and no play = fewer kidsPlaying devil's advocate here.. If bots are more efficient at turning energy into work than humans, then the need for humans TO WORK is either reduced or eliminated. Seems contradictory to Elon's own desire for people to have more children.
There is no future I can imagine where people are having lots of kids and living a life of leisure due to an army of cheap humanoid robots which will provide an abundance of basic needs (food, clothing, shelter). "Blade Runner" seems a more likely outcome than "Star Trek".All work and no play = fewer kids
Some bored, relaxed drunken play....
I think many people are too consumed by work/career/expensive housing (and consumerism) to consider having kids at an early age.
I'm not sure it will change in a post-abundance future. A set of rich people normally try to grab power and the spoils. People are probably choosing not to have kids for a whole variety of reasons including peers not having them young.
Also population overall keeps going up- and in every projection keeps doing so long into the future.
It's far afield of topic but it's hard to read any current "concern" for low birth rates in any way other than concern about which demographics birth rates are higher vs lower.
$25k doorstop. Take my money already! /s
I expect laundry folding will be on a similar trajectory.