FSD discussion

[SPadival]

This is not at all anything official, just an open minded officer from Sweden informing themselves what FSD can do. Good PR on Tesla’s side, but Sweden as well as the rest of Europe depends on UNECE moving ahead and that will take years still Ian afraid.

Just before Rohan Patel quit, he posted that UNECE changes that will be implemented in November 2024 will not allow FSD V12 implementation in the EU region. Maybe Elon saw that post, went into one of his demon mode and fired Patel

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775856099473695164

There is some differing opinions on whether the updated regulations allow system initiated actions without driver approval. Maybe an EU lawyer here can read the updated regulations and determine what’s what.

 

[EVNow]

There is some differing opinions on whether the updated regulations allow system initiated actions without driver approval. Maybe an EU lawyer here can read the updated regulations and determine what’s what.

Fairly sure Tesla lawyers were involved in forming this opinion - I don't think this is Rohan's personal reading.

 

[SPadival]

Fairly sure Tesla lawyers were involved in forming this opinion - I don't think this is Rohan's personal reading.

When Patel posted that, I immediately thought it was improper of him to post this in public.

There is always room for interpretation of the regulations and there should be negotiations with regulators on the correct interpretation. Patel should not have negotiated in public and showed his hand.

Anyway, water under the bridge and they seem to have taken the right approach now by giving FSD demos to regulators. Marc Van Impe is now the man to watch for!!

 

[SPadival]

Marc is on the job already, correcting an forum member turned “influencer”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1784155858252771333

 

[Knightshade]

Alex is... not a great source...for much of anything.

 

[EVNow]

When Patel posted that, I immediately thought it was improper of him to post this in public.

There is always room for interpretation of the regulations and there should be negotiations with regulators on the correct interpretation. Patel should not have negotiated in public and showed his hand.

My read was Tesla had been in negotiations and were disappointed with what they came up with. That disappointment and the reason he gave are Tesla's official position. Patel is too experienced to go off on such an important topic without internal consensus/approval.

Infact Patel might have been in charge of forming Tesla's stance on the issue and try to influence. If anything he may have been let go because he couldn't secure a favorable outcome.

 

[Electroman]

Marc is on the job already, correcting an forum member turned “influencer”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1784155858252771333

Vehicle Safety & Automation Policy Lead at Tesla Motors is posting at Twitter without a blue check. How do I know it is him?

 

[SPadival]

Vehicle Safety & Automation Policy Lead at Tesla Motors is posting at Twitter without a blue check. How do I know it is him?

Lars Moravy doesn’t have a profile picture on his X account . How do I know it is him

 

[Electroman]

Lars Moravy doesn’t have a profile picture on his X account . How do I know it is him

Blue check mark is the basic minimum one should have, if they are aserious poster on X.

Moreover if he posts on behalf of an organization with a specific title, then he should be have Organization (gold) check mark. I don't read posts that are not even blue checked, which costs just one cup of Starbucks coffee a month.

 

[willow_hiller]

Small sample size, and all the usual caveats about those being polled apply, but still interesting poll on Reddit:

Among those who did not answer Other (myself included for owning FSD outright and so I could see the results of the poll), 53% of those given a FSD trial are willing to resubscribe now or at another time (either month-to-month or after the next non-patch update). 19% thought it was too expensive. 28% thought it was not reliable enough.

 

[winfield100]

Small sample size, and all the usual caveats about those being polled apply, but still interesting poll on Reddit:

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Among those who did not answer Other (myself included for owning FSD outright and so I could see the results of the poll), 53% of those given a FSD trial are willing to resubscribe now or at another time (either month-to-month or after the next non-patch update). 19% thought it was too expensive. 28% thought it was not reliable enough.

getting ready for a 2,500+ mile trip in a few days so keeping the $99 for at least another month, plus I jus got 12.6 yesterday

 

[uscbucsfan]

getting ready for a 2,500+ mile trip in a few days so keeping the $99 for at least another month, plus I jus got 12.6 yesterday

You mean 12.3.6

 

[GatorMeat]

I had to force 12.3.5 this morning. I changed the setting off of 'advanced' and back again and then held it for a few seconds and it started downloading.
I tried it again to get 12.3.6,, but it didn't work.

 

[winfield100]

You mean 12.3.6

apologies, 12.3.6.
i "phat fingered" my very old keyboard (many keys barely work, some double worrk)
ave done 259 supercharges so far, 40,598 miles in 23 months