Curious why not the front bumper though?
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Curious why not the front bumper though?
Any ideas? Looking for tint install in Edmonton
You have presented an excellent case for not ordering autopilot. I got it and am very grateful I did. As a possibly useful counterpoint for those still on the fence, let me present some comments with respect to your assessment as well as some reasons in favour of EAP.
Comments with respect to your list:
Comments with respect to your list:
- This is perhaps my biggest concern. I'm at 6,800 km, most on EAP and so maybe I've not yet had enough time to become complacent but I find myself to be more aware of my surroundings with EAP than without as I don't have to spend so much effort micromanaging little details like staying within the lines and maintaining a safe distance from the car ahead and not exceeding the speed limit (which is ridiculously easy to do in the Model 3 as there's so much torque even at highway speed, and no engine sound to help your awareness of how fast you're driving).
- Yep, agreed! Up to you to decide if it's worth it. In my case, yes, it is well worth the money.
- This is important for people to know. I've had a few occasions where it seemed like it was wanting to do something I didn't want it to and if you're paying attention as if you were in control of the car then it's not an issue at all to make the car do what you want it to do rather than what it wants. Now if you've abdicated control to the car and are busy with your phone, I'm doubtful there's time for you to look up, assess the situation and react in time. That's why I intend to drive as though EAP is simply a more capable cruise control that still requires my constant vigilance.
- I'm not certain it will cause the dumbing down of experienced drivers at this point. We'll still be doing enough driving on our own and the driving skills are hardwired into us enough that I'm not worried about this. I am however worried about the next generation of drivers. I've got a 16 year old who just got his licence and a 12 year old and I'm certain they'll never gain the experience that I've acquired over the years. In a country that still gets hit by bad winter storms, I do not think this is a good thing.
- It still relies upon the driver being courteous. Just like on regular cruise control, I'll slow down to let a car in, lane change to get out of someone's way, etc. EAP did not cause me to lose my road manners.
- It is far more useful in these situations than you let on. The vast majority of my driving with EAP is on non-divided freeways. It's fantastic there. Only limitation is you can only exceed the speed limit by 10 kph. Up to you to decide if that's a problem or not. If it is, TACC will still work at any excessive speed you choose, you'll just have to steer yourself. On any residential road with a dividing line, EAP works great. Watch out for school zones though, it won't slow down for those. Construction zones - it depends. For a short zone, simply cancel EAP and resume when done, no big deal. For those long stretches of 10's of kilometers, If they've got clear temporary lines EAP works great, but be vigilant and prepared to take control at any time. Worst is when old lines and new temporary lines conflict one another or the old lines still exist and they use traffic cones to direct the traffic. Just be smart. Icy/dangerous conditions, sure, but once the roads are plowed, as long as the lines are visible you're good to go. Again, be aware and ready to take control if road conditions change.
- I too love driving. However, I also do a lot of long road trips. EAP is amazing at making a long monotonous drive way more relaxing and enjoyable. Let's face it, most of the roads in Alberta are long and straight and flat. Sure, if I find a road with some twisties I'd prefer to do the driving myself but for most road trips EAP is the most amazing improvement to driving in my 35 years behind the wheel.
- Tesla's TACC is amazing in it's capabilities. We also have a 2018 Toyota Highlander and it's TACC is simply not as capable. Probably due to the huge difference in acceleration capabilities between the two vehicles but the Toyota seems so much laggier and requires a lot more intervention on my part.
- If you plan on pushing the limits of the battery as I've already often done, TACC is very valuable. Firstly, with regular cruise control, whenever I catch a vehicle ahead of me I'm compelled to pass - they're clearly going slower than me otherwise I wouldn't have caught up to them and also it's really annoying using dumb cruise control to follow someone not using cruise. Then if they start playing leapfrog with me where they feel the need to pass me once I resume using cruise, but 2 minutes after they get ahead of me they're going slower than what I've got my cruise set at, well those dimwits need to be passed and I need to put enough distance behind me that I can resume using cruise without playing leapfrog anymore. This causes me to waste energy by accelerating to pass often and also I get tempted to set my cruise speed faster and faster... With TACC I just follow these people and let the car maintain a constant distance. Far less stressful and tons of energy saved. Secondly, when following a lead car, there's a huge benefit in energy consumption from drafting. The bigger the vehicle, the more the benefit. Last weekend is a good example. We were in my Model 3, loaded with passengers and with a canoe on the roof. Driving 100 kph consumed 220 Wh/km. Drafting a dump truck with TACC (distance set to 6) averaging 115 kph consumed 185 Wh/km; dramatic difference! Regular cruise is inadequate at following vehicles ahead, TACC is amazing at this. Huge difference.
Figured it's plastic anyway, so not worried about chips. Just over 65,500 km so far and no visible damage to the bumper/nosecone. Hood was getting chipped within days in its first winter.
int32_t
Tesla Spotter
This conversation is the best! I enjoyed reading both your posts, and you both make superb points. If I was on the fence myself, I would have been convinced both ways by now. Having a pleasant online discussion about something is such a breath of fresh air in the political environment of late (sorry for bringing that up). Only on a Tesla forum!
Delivery date just showed up on my Tesla page. Sept 21 in Calgary.
Zapped
Model S - PURE EV
Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3
235/45 R 18 98 T XL
235/40 R 19 96 T XL
The Fins know winter. The R2s have been the best winter tires I've owned, I'm hoping the R3s are at least as good, if not better.
Zapped
Model S - PURE EV
Seems the Calgary delivery staff will be very busy before the end of September. I heard last week that they are expecting 200 vehicles in the next few weeks presumably as part of the effort for TESLA meet Q3 sales targets. I understand that last quarter Calgary brought in staff from Vancouver to help with deliveries.
My daughter had confirmed her Model 3 order 3 weeks ago and just check her MyTesla web page this morning. She was surprised to see a Sept 18th delivery appointment. TESLA are not very good a giving notice. She's going to call to see if this is in fact a realistic date.
It would be interesting to know what other people are experiencing.
3s-a-charm
Active Member
Where is the best place to get Hakka’s?
Edit: read post above. Will contact Kaltire
For those of us in Edmonton, please consider bringing your car to the National Drive Electric Week event Sunday Sept 16 11am-4pm @ the new mall @ the airport. And no you don't have to stay the entire time lol (but always great when people do). More info and to register your car: National Drive Electric Week Event - Edmonton International Airport
I got an e-mail on Sept 6th that stated my M3 would be available the week of Sept 24 to Oct 1. It went on to ask which day do I want and AM or PM. I replied immediately but there has been radio silence since. MyTesla still shows a Sept-Nov window. No VIN. Do you and Grrreg have VINs?
Thanks for the reminder to register. I'll have to see if my wife wants to go shopping that day and she can bring the Volt so I can show off both vehicles that day.
Since this is an Alberta thread, should also point out that Calgary's NDEW event is this evening at SAIT. There was also one on the 9th at the Tesla Service Centre, haven't heard anything about how that went.
I never got a call or email. Delivery date just showed up on my Tesla page. I called the SC and got my vin.109752. She said my car will arrive this week so may schedule earlier than the original Sept 21.
Yesterday was the day! I went to pick up my car in Calgary, but I had to delay delivery due to a few issues. They're keeping the car to fix them and hopefully it will be ready in a few days.
I had a dirt or dust particle underneath the paint on the front passenger quarter panel that was a noticeable bump. There was a rather large bump on the driver side weather stripping that looked quite bad. I know it would really bother me looking at it every time I open the driver door. Last issue was some delivery tape or something that was left on the passenger side rocker panel between the two doors.
Other than that the car looked amazing. Panel gaps were good. Hopefully I get it back in a few days. The Delivery Specialists were quite understanding and apologetic.
While talking to the Delivery Specialist, they told me they are expecting to get slammed for the next 2 months with deliveries in Calgary. They are expecting about 200 cars in the next couple of months. While I was there, a trailer full of Model 3's was being off loaded.
I had a dirt or dust particle underneath the paint on the front passenger quarter panel that was a noticeable bump. There was a rather large bump on the driver side weather stripping that looked quite bad. I know it would really bother me looking at it every time I open the driver door. Last issue was some delivery tape or something that was left on the passenger side rocker panel between the two doors.
Other than that the car looked amazing. Panel gaps were good. Hopefully I get it back in a few days. The Delivery Specialists were quite understanding and apologetic.
While talking to the Delivery Specialist, they told me they are expecting to get slammed for the next 2 months with deliveries in Calgary. They are expecting about 200 cars in the next couple of months. While I was there, a trailer full of Model 3's was being off loaded.
lotuni
Member
The BBQ at the service center was good. I'm surprised TMC got missed in the advertising (I'll take some of that blame). Around 34 Teslas and a handful of EVs came. Tesla mentioned a couple hundred M3's coming by end of month, so that's exciting!
FYI they now have a performance M3 for test drives.
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