Tesla Software Updates for Model 3 New Zealand

[Ecoli]

I'm going to be that guy and point out that you should be saying Autopilot, not FSD Just so we don't confuse new visitors.

Bummer that the variable speed limit recognition isn't here for NZ tho.

I'm going to be that guy and point out that I'm saying I have FSD because I do
Well I paid for it I have it, but I don't have it

Technically I suppose I don't have FSD but my car behaves differently to AP cars
because it does have FSD, confusing yes
For science and transparency I added I have FSD so it was clear
if someone was comparing what was happening with my car to theirs

Navigate on Autopilot
Auto Lane Change
Autopark
Summon
Smart Summon
Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control
Upcoming
Autosteer on city streets

yep it it is a bummer variable speed sign recognition appears not to be working for NZ
I guess we can add it to the growing missing for NZ available in other countries list

missing that I can think of
Variable speed sign recognition
remote sentry view
remote talking via car though the app with ED-209 voice

motorway auto speed limit up/down (not 100% sure on this, doesn't work for me)

 

[Audietron]

Variable speed sign recognition has never been a feature on the cars in NZ, so it's not a feature that has been taken away as you claim

Thanks for correcting me... what I was pointing was that speeds were changing before on motorway and not changing anymore since UI and navigation update.

 

[Audietron]

I'm going to be that guy and point out that I'm saying I have FSD because I do
Well I paid for it I have it, but I don't have it

Technically I suppose I don't have FSD but my car behaves differently to AP cars
because it does have FSD, confusing yes
For science and transparency I added I have FSD so it was clear
if someone was comparing what was happening with my car to theirs

Navigate on Autopilot
Auto Lane Change
Autopark
Summon
Smart Summon
Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control
Upcoming
Autosteer on city streets

yep it it is a bummer variable speed sign recognition appears not to be working for NZ
I guess we can add it to the growing missing for NZ available in other countries list

missing that I can think of
Variable speed sign recognition
remote sentry view
remote talking via car though the app with ED-209 voice

motorway auto speed limit up/down (not 100% sure on this, doesn't work for me)

You are absolutely correct on there... but my experience is that anything which is not positive for Tesla is not usually welcome within forum.

It's black and white as : They sold me FSD, I paid for FSD, so I must have FSD... anything else and it is called fraud from Tesla - which I am sure they wouldn't intend to do.

as we can see on Tesla website for NZ... it is sold as FULL Self-driving Capability. not BETA, not to-be-announced... so better we call what is is sold as and purchased as - FSD

PS: Funny mumbo-jumbo at end saying we are selling you something which is not what it says and it is not our fault we are selling it, it's your fault you are still buying it - lol

 

[Matt_NZ]

I'm going to be that guy and point out that I'm saying I have FSD because I do
Well I paid for it I have it, but I don't have it

Technically I suppose I don't have FSD but my car behaves differently to AP cars
because it does have FSD, confusing yes
For science and transparency I added I have FSD so it was clear
if someone was comparing what was happening with my car to theirs

Navigate on Autopilot
Auto Lane Change
Autopark
Summon
Smart Summon
Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control
Upcoming
Autosteer on city streets

yep it it is a bummer variable speed sign recognition appears not to be working for NZ
I guess we can add it to the growing missing for NZ available in other countries list

missing that I can think of
Variable speed sign recognition
remote sentry view
remote talking via car though the app with ED-209 voice

motorway auto speed limit up/down (not 100% sure on this, doesn't work for me)

Yes, you have the FSD package but that just means you're in line for FSD when it's finally released. At the moment, all the FSD package does is reserve it for you while giving you all the benefits of Enhanced Autopilot to tide you over while you wait. I also have all those features you mentioned (minus stopping at traffic lights/signs) and I only have the Enhanced Autopilot package.

I just think it's confusing to potential owners if you say "I was using FSD on the motorway" when that's not correct.

 

[Audietron]

Yes, you have the FSD package but that just means you're in line for FSD when it's finally released. At the moment, all the FSD package does is reserve it for you while giving you all the benefits of Enhanced Autopilot to tide you over while you wait. I also have all those features you mentioned (minus stopping at traffic lights/signs) and I only have the Enhanced Autopilot package.

I just think it's confusing to potential owners if you say "I was using FSD on the motorway" when that's not correct.

well... when differance between NZ "enhanced Autopilot" available at times, and NZ FSD available at all times - is just traffic signal detection.... one can surely use FSD for FSD because enhanced autopilot is one time offer once in a while - not always available. it is more of the heavily discounted NZ FSD package with only one feature missing.

NZ FSD is permanent full package at premium price.
NZ Enhanced autopilot is special package at heavily discounted premium price.

because for NZ it never mentioned that FSD is Beta or reduced capability compare to USA/UK FSD... it's as always misleading that "Full Self-Driving" where city roads are yet to come (plus endless conditions/excuses).

If only Tesla was more realistic to selling packages and naming them less misleading.

so in nutshell, when you have only enhanced autopilot, you actually have FSD with one beta feature missing ...
who knows, in future they will have extra features added for you at free and reduce total cost of FSD to cost of Enhanced Autopilot thanks to competition in market.

 

[Matt_NZ]

When you buy the FSD package and you're not in the FSD Beta that is available in North America then you have Enhanced Autopilot with the promise of more in the future These features existed with Enhanced Autopilot long before the FSD Package was created.

Enhanced Autopilot looks to be a permanent option now in NZ, as it has been in the UK and Europe for the last few years.

But anyway, this is wildly off topic now.

 

[Audietron]

When you buy the FSD package and you're not in the FSD Beta that is available in North America then you have Enhanced Autopilot with the promise of more in the future These features existed with Enhanced Autopilot long before the FSD Package was created.

Enhanced Autopilot looks to be a permanent option now in NZ, as it has been in the UK and Europe for the last few years.

But anyway, this is wildly off topic now.

Totally agree, wildly off topic.

 

[Ecoli]

2022.20.7 downloading

 

[Audietron]

2022.20.7 downloading

hopefully radio and music fix... I was at service centre recently and they mentioned that radio dropping is known issue and fixed soon.

 

[Smithy02]

2022.20.7

When doing a lane change on autopilot, a white 'box' is drawn showing where the car will be in the new lane - quite cool and not noticed previously

S02

 

[Matt_NZ]

2022.20.7

When doing a lane change on autopilot, a white 'box' is drawn showing where the car will be in the new lane - quite cool and not noticed previously

S02

Do you have EAP or the FSD package?

This has been present for lane changing with both those packages for some time now.

 

[RobDickinson]

I thought lane changes with AP canceled AP?

 

[Audietron]

2022.20.7

When doing a lane change on autopilot, a white 'box' is drawn showing where the car will be in the new lane - quite cool and not noticed previously

S02

Yeah a difference of white box instead of box with borders before.... It highlights now more.

 

[Matt_NZ]

I thought lane changes with AP canceled AP?

If you have EAP or the FSD package then AP will do the lane change for you and not require you to break out of AP

 

[RobDickinson]

If you have EAP or the FSD package then AP will do the lane change for you and not require you to break out of AP

AP wont EAP/FSD will.

But it requires indicating (unless on NoA) and neither lane change or the graphics will show using just AP?

 

[m3lol]

Having only limited experience with NoA as part of the FSD package, isn’t the predicted ‘box’ in blue when you indicate a lane change?

 

[RobDickinson]

I thought it was white because the whole lane is blue and it contrasts. but tbh cant say Ive used it a lot

 

[Matt_NZ]

AP wont EAP/FSD will.

But it requires indicating (unless on NoA) and neither lane change or the graphics will show using just AP?

Yeah, that's what I said

When you have the EAP or FSD add-on, indicating while using AP on a motorway or seperate road will always do the lane change for you and bring up the graphic showing the lane in blue with a white square where the car will be in the adjacent lane.

 

[Smithy02]

Do you have EAP or the FSD package?

This has been present for lane changing with both those packages for some time now.

FSD, I should have taken more notice.

 

[Ecoli]

Yes, you have the FSD package but that just means you're in line for FSD when it's finally released. At the moment, all the FSD package does is reserve it for you while giving you all the benefits of Enhanced Autopilot to tide you over while you wait. I also have all those features you mentioned (minus stopping at traffic lights/signs) and I only have the Enhanced Autopilot package.

I just think it's confusing to potential owners if you say "I was using FSD on the motorway" when that's not correct.

I do realize FSD is a WIP, I knew that when I paid for it way back in 2019 when NoP was only a glint in Elon's eye for NZ
The whole point of me stating I have FSD was to make it clear to anyone comparing what my car does maybe different to theirs
Even AP behaves is differently because of FSD.
I didn't feel like writing a dissertation on the inner workings of FSD....sorry about that

IMO FSD situation is confusing for anyone who doesn't do some in depth research
if you just watch some recommended you tube videos or skim a few posts on reddit or here
and don't check regional forums.
Highly likely they may come away with high expectations for FSD, especially now with the US beta
add to that mix AP, NOP, FSD, EAP... WTF

I don't think any of the NZ demo cars have FSD enabled so you can see for realzies
what FSD is like in NZ. (Disclaimer they didn't when I test drove the S&X in pre Krd times)