ofcourse i am not going sell puts naked. i would keep cash. I have many TSLA stocks to cover selling calls I am waiting for them to be transferred to this account. I am trying to understand this for sure. anyhow thanks for posting
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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ofcourse i am not going sell puts naked. i would keep cash. I have many TSLA stocks to cover selling calls I am waiting for them to be transferred to this account. I am trying to understand this for sure. anyhow thanks for posting
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You don't cover a sold Put with stock, you back it with cash. But, most people don't do that because it's a poor use of capital, so typically margin is used. Now, if you are indeed thinking that you're covering that Put with stock, you're in for a double whammy: One, you have to buy TSLA at the agreed upon price, and Two, you have to sell the TSLA you have at that low price in order to get the cash to buy the shares being put to you. So, now you have a transaction with potential tax ramifications and have also reset the the holding period on your holding.
ARK (all of their funds) will hold position with TSLA unless there is a large price movement. They will sell after a big jump up, as their guidelines force them to stay under a certain dollar percentage, and they will buy more after a big crash, because they believe in their own estimates.
MarketWatch - 6 minutes ago: Wall Street sees Biden win speeding U.S. shift to clean energy
Subtitle: Investors are already betting on cleaner companies. Just look at Tesla
Subtitle: Investors are already betting on cleaner companies. Just look at Tesla
Andrea James, but I've forgotten who she worked for at the time. And funnily enough Adam Jonas at first, until someone trod on him from above. It got very confusing for a while, people would type AJ but it was unclear which one they were referring to.
Edit: Andrea worked for Doherty at the time (99% sure), then for Tesla for a while.
More edit: I think she predicted something like $180 when TSLA was in the doldrums of the mid thirties.
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People around here are too young. You have to include the first real Tesla bull analyst, Andrea James.
Dave Lee interviewing Andrea James back in 2016.
Same. My uncle who always voted for conservatives (called Liberals in Australia) suddenly bought a Model S, spoiling my chance at getting the first Tesla in the family. Best part is I never discussed the cars with him, so he must have heard about them elsewhere (he’s a doc.. hope there is strong peer pressure amongst them to get the latest Tesla instead of Mercury/BMW). He knew that I owned shares and in the last zoom call, he made sure to check that I hadn’t sold it yet
That's my worry after S&P inclusion the IV collapsing.
Who are some of the original Tesla share holders? The under 30 dollar/share pre split group?
Not I. I didn't get into TSLA until it hit a lofty $35 (post-split $7).
You have to understand those BUY orders went out over our 19th c telegraph wires strung atop caribou antlers....giving @ggr and other miscreants a chance to front run.....
You have to understand those BUY orders went out over our 19th c telegraph wires strung atop caribou antlers....giving @ggr and other miscreants a chance to front run.....
Some of us were in the IPO at $17. Owning an original Roadster is a bit of a giveaway.
that should be least of your worries, as should S&P inclusion
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I have stated before, I bought first 1K shares in Aug. 2011 at $23.80. Thought I was buying a car company and supporting the mission. Little by little, I learned from this forum that Tesla would be a a series of cross-linked technologies that would doom legacy cars and transform utilities. I believe a TMC member Julien Cox first explained what Tesla could become. Like other valuable contributors, he was expelled for unknown reasons.
I was discussing here and waiting for the IPO since the Roadster and T-Shirts where the only products Tesla sold. I bought a shirt but only test drove the Roadster. Then started buying stock. My post split lowest cost share is $4.74
I agree with the Andrea push for 'the mount' and the most interesting (aggravating) bit for me that came out of Dave's interview with her is that analysts get 'call backs' after the broadcasted CCs following each ER. They are intended to allow analysts to fact check their numbers/comments that will go into their reports but they also allow them to get another 'bite at the apple' for information that retail investors don't get.
If only more people realized then what an excellent investment a $100,000+ two-seater could be.
I suspect buying a Roadster is one of the best investments many owners ever made (same principle for many Model S, X, 3 and Y owners ....)
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Yep, that's just how it is. Large institutional holders also get these callbacks.
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