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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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ZachF
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woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Are there even any shorts left to spank? I think at this point you’re just getting the ones that like it...repeat customers, if you will.
Pezpunk
Active Member
If you're concerned about the future of humanity, then buying a Hybrid is like a vegetarian ordering a cheeseburger because it has a pickle on it.
Plug-in hybrids in new emissions scandal as tests show higher pollution than claimed
Plug-in hybrids in new emissions scandal as tests show higher pollution than claimed | Transport & Environment
Plug-in hybrids in new emissions scandal as tests show higher pollution than claimed
Plug-in hybrids in new emissions scandal as tests show higher pollution than claimed | Transport & Environment
I think today is the first day since S&P announcement that there has been a market tailwind
Wow never thought about using options like this. In my mind if we can get to $1000 in couple of years I can pretty much “retire” but I’m not betting on share price this high in Jan ‘23. Say if it does get past $1000 I retire and collected the premium.Well how about selling a $1000 CC for Jan ‘23? Pays $7.1k per contract. Sell 14 of ‘em for $100k to use as instant cash (or essentially earning about 1k per week for the next 2 years guaranteed and paid upfront).
Then either part with 1,400 shares in 2 years or see it expiring below strike and take the free premium. Or buy it back at 5% price when the stock / IV drops again.
I have similar feelings, should leave the house but can't be bothered...
...would involve too much shoveling
Everyone is just shocked. No one could see this coming!
Such a great day. Someone else will need to sacrifice a body part to keep it going. My appendix is only worth about $125 I figure.
picked up 15 Jan 21 $680 calls at open. If we get a truly large spike they will be pretty nice to have. If not then I’m not out too much.
picked up 15 Jan 21 $680 calls at open. If we get a truly large spike they will be pretty nice to have. If not then I’m not out too much.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
One of you people needs to sell me a $90 put for Jan 2022. I know $1.15 doesn't seem like a very good offer, but really.....it's free money, and I'm sick of looking at this line in my data.
Citations:
Wedbush analyst Dan Ives has taken his bull-case on Tesla stock to $1,000.
Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas, for instance, has a top target even higher than Ives’, at $1,068 per share.
Credit Suisse analyst Dan Levy rates Tesla shares Hold and has a $400 price target. Levy publishes upside and downside scenarios too. His most-bullish case forecasts 2.8 million vehicles sold in 2025. In that scenario Tesla stock is worth almost $1,100.
Source: Tesla Could Be the Next Trillion-Dollar Stock. What You Need to Know.
Buddyroe
Active Member
Tesla definitely has some quality and service issues they need to iron out. And anyone that ventures to other forums on TMC besides this one knows that. However, I think it is simply a financial business and strategy decision that Tesla made long ago in terms of how to survive and grow quickly. Most early adopters (yes, even today's buyers are early adopters when considering Tesla's overall market share) are willing to accept some deficiency as a trade off for both the other great aspects of the cars and the environmental aspects.
I'm willing to bet there's a priority for quality and service and we will see this priority slowly ramp up as Tesla sells more and more cars. Simply put, the overall poor quality and service has not hurt the company at all so there's little reason to spend billions to correct it until they have to (which has actually already started).
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
What’s up with these pathetic bull cases? We’re ready to hear a compelling new one, ARK crew!
Quite crazy CALL made today morning. Very bullish OTM calls for December ends.
~6M call bets are rare, even so if they are very much OTM and short term like 1 month.
I am wondering about how big fund insider's be playing the insider info card about additions?
Secondly, I would like to start a speculation on when the Gamma squeeze might occur. How do MM's usually hedge for copious amounts of CALLS bought?
P.S Do not trade on this data
~6M call bets are rare, even so if they are very much OTM and short term like 1 month.
I am wondering about how big fund insider's be playing the insider info card about additions?
Secondly, I would like to start a speculation on when the Gamma squeeze might occur. How do MM's usually hedge for copious amounts of CALLS bought?
P.S Do not trade on this data
I think much of it is due to the old junky Freemont factory. We are already seeing that MIC model 3s are superior in build quality and I'm not placing much weight behind the idea that's its because of lazy American workers. So new factories combined with the ability to design them with lessons learned will surely have them improving quickly.
Do you have any data (besides Consumer Reports) to indicate "poor quality" on the Model Y?
Not saying there isn't a problem... how do you know this and how is it quantified - or compared to Model 3 ramp is maybe a better question.
I bring this up everytime, then I end on a note like "Without panel gaps, the doors will not open." (It's from my "old jokes" pocket.)
I was there in 2018 for a tour. Junky? What happened?
AimStellar
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CNBC highlights ARKK in this morning's ETF spotlight segment. Proceeds to state that "the fund's top holding is ROKU ...". Tesla was not mentioned.
His most-bullish case forecasts 2.8 million vehicles sold in 2025. In that scenario Tesla stock is worth almost $1,100. I think we can all safely say that this is like almost a guarantee
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