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Thank you Mod, must have been all of the Bitcoin posts that confused me.

Tesla Summoned by Chinese Regulators on Quality Issues

SHANGHAI— Tesla Inc. TSLA 1.31% has been summoned by Chinese authorities citing consumer complaints about quality issues, a warning for the electric-vehicle maker in a country where it has enjoyed a welcome rarely seen for foreign companies.

The State Administration for Market Regulation, China’s top market regulator, said Monday that it and four other regulators had instructed Tesla to abide by Chinese laws and regulations and strengthen internal management to ensure the quality and safety of its products.

It was a rare rebuke for Tesla, the first foreign auto maker to operate a wholly-owned plant in China.

~~~ BItcoin Discussed hours and hours and hours ago. Moderators have multiple times alerted participants to DO YOUR BITCOIN RESEARCH (look back through at least the day's posts) before placing some Bitcoin news headline in the thread. Or do you really think that you're the first past the post?

By the way, did anyone notice Tesla has incorporated bitcoin into its Treasury holdings?~~~
 
wtf? In what simulated universe would Robinhood have more searches than Tesla? So weird.

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Thank you Mod, must have been all of the Bitcoin posts that confused me.

Tesla Summoned by Chinese Regulators on Quality Issues

SHANGHAI— Tesla Inc. TSLA 1.31% has been summoned by Chinese authorities citing consumer complaints about quality issues, a warning for the electric-vehicle maker in a country where it has enjoyed a welcome rarely seen for foreign companies.

The State Administration for Market Regulation, China’s top market regulator, said Monday that it and four other regulators had instructed Tesla to abide by Chinese laws and regulations and strengthen internal management to ensure the quality and safety of its products.

It was a rare rebuke for Tesla, the first foreign auto maker to operate a wholly-owned plant in China.

~~~ BItcoin Discussed hours and hours and hours ago. Moderators have multiple times alerted participants to DO YOUR BITCOIN RESEARCH (look back through at least the day's posts) before placing some Bitcoin news headline in the thread. Or do you really think that you're the first past the post?

By the way, did anyone notice Tesla has incorporated bitcoin into its Treasury holdings?~~~
You've posted, reiterated and repeated this many times since yesterday. Me wonders if you have an agenda :rolleyes:
 
I interrupt the current BTC programming to share my thoughts after reading through the 10-K. I think there are some very interesting comments laced through the disclosures, as well as some subtle tweaks to language from prior years.

TL;DR:
  1. Market underappreciates the year over year Gross Margin improvement as well as how much operating leverage Tesla has achieved;
  2. Deferred Tax Asset Valuation Allowance saga continues, and will continue to snowball in size. Compounded with operating leverage, this is a significant future unlock of net operating margins;
  3. Stock based compensation is impacting multiple expenses categories (cost of goods sold, R&D, and general operating expenditures); this directly impacts a number of the standard ratios and metrics analysts use to value financial health and valuation of companies and makes Tesla very difficult to compare against "peers";
  4. Tesla intends to establish its own ride-hailing network - this is no longer just speculation or inference from a robo-taxi blue sky presentation from years ago - they explicitly state it for the first time in their 10-K;
  5. I am expecting announcements of at least two new factories in 2021;
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Gross Margins (GM): Margin expansion was actually stronger than it appeared. 2019 had a downward revision ($451M) to Cost of Goods Sold (COGS) due to management having increased the likelihood of resale guarantee utilization (remember that program where Tesla guaranteed a certain percentage of resale values?). If estimates are that more people will exercise that option, then Tesla buys back the vehicle and gets to resell it (assumed at a gain, as they would tack on full FSD on re-sale). Management had increased their estimate utilization of that program, so they decreased the COGS related to vehicles subject to those options so as to account for the potential future gain on resale. This made 2019 GM higher (and likely was what they needed to keep margins above the 20% threshold).

Moreover, Tesla had $213M of idle capacity charges (i.e., you still incur costs relating to your factory even if its not producing anything - those costs get charged to COGS - essentially increasing the overall COGS per unit produced from that factory in the year), relating to factory shut downs due to pandemic. So, if you add $451M to 2019 COGS and remove $213M from 2020 COGS, you actually get to a 2019 GM of 19.1% (vs. 21.2%) and a 2020 GM of 26.4% (vs. 25.6%). That's impressive GM growth and shows the power of localized manufacturing (e.g., Shanghai) and equally highlights the benefits of Model Y cost structure being similar to Model 3, yet priced at a premium. I would not be shocked to see Tesla pushing 30-40% GM in the near future, especially if FSD take rates improve at all.

For transparency, estimates around the resale options as well as warranty reserves are two HIGHLY subjective areas and would be one area that management can pull a lot of accounting levers to achieve desired outcomes. In fact, this is fully disclosed in PwC's audit report as critical areas of the audit. This essentially is a cover-your-*** statement from PwC should the actual resales value program utilization or actual warranty expenses vary materially from current management estimates.

Deferred Tax Asset (DTA) and Valuation Allowance (VA): Tesla has been accumulating tax losses and tax credits for many years. Generally, when an entity accumulates these losses and credits, they effectively are building DTAs, assets that they will be able to apply against taxes payable in future years due to future profitability. From a financial reporting perspective, entities can only show this as an asset on their balance sheet if there is a "more likely than not" (generally >50%) probability that they will actually consume the assets in the foreseeable future. Tesla has yet to agree with their auditors as to the likelihood of utilization of some of these DTAs. As such, they have applied a VA against their DTA. Fancy way of saying they are valuing the DTA as $0 for reporting purposes.

If and when they release that VA, it will be a $3B+ boost to Net Income and a significant lift to Operating Margin %s. I would estimate we see all or part of that VA be released over the next 1-3 years. The reason for the range (rather than my taking the stance that 2021 WILL be the year of release of VA) would be that Tesla currently generates significant tax deductions due to their stock-based compensation (SBC) plan with Elon, and to a lesser extent, most of their employees. As those shares/options vest, Tesla gets significant tax write-offs relative to their Financial Statement Net Income. As long as those write-offs are sufficient to off-set immediate taxes payable, Tesla may not release the VA on their accumulated DTAs. Though at current market cap and operational milestone pace, it's likely that the CEO compensation package is fully taken in to account within the next 1-2 years which, compounded with continued growing profitability, would culminate in a release of the VA in that 1-3 year window.

R&D Expense: Increased $148M year over year, $62M related to materials testing (could be prototype equipment, could be testing different raw materials for battery chemistry or manufacturing processes, either way - its a lot of something), and $61M due to SBC on R&D staff.

SG&A: More than 100% of growth in SG&A expenses was from... you guessed it... SBC. SG&A would have otherwise decreased, which again confirms the theory that Tesla is now at the point in their growth journey of unlocking MASSIVE operating leverage. In other words, Tesla's rate of generating sales far outpaces its rate of incurring operating expenses, meaning incremental vehicle sales will continue to disproportionately increase Net Income, and thus Net Operating Margin %, and thus EPS. I would not be surprised to see double digit Net Operating Margin in the next 2-3 years (from the current 2.2%) especially when you consider the potential release of VA on DTAs. This is a significant potential unlock to valuation of Tesla as analysts get comfortable with that reality.

FSD: This is the first time I've seen Tesla explicitly state that "We intend to establish in the future an autonomous Tesla ride-hailing network, which we expect would also allow us to access a new customer base even as modes of transportation evolve."; I checked their 2019 10-K and most recent 10-Q and there is no mention of that intention. This will add fuel to the revenue streams that analysts will be forced to consider in their own valuation models and again solidifying a significant portion of Tesla's valuation.

Engineering: Similar to FSD, Tesla has made a new statement in this 10-K "As we increase our capabilities, particularly in the areas of automation, die-making and line-building, we are also making strides in the simulations modeling these capabilities prior to construction." Making the machine that makes the machine. Tesla's product road map is as much factory design and building as it is the products those factories build. I would not be shocked to hear of several new factory announcements this year and equally not be shocked if we see the ramp in Berlin and Texas to be significantly faster than Shanghai.

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Conclusion: Anyone selling off because of BTC is forgetting that this is still just the beginning for Tesla.

You mention the adjustments to COGS but there are similar adjustments to revenue that I think you need to account for with your point on margins.
 
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Don’t buy this psychic babble explanation, it’s pure rationalization
Equally plausible is that he is somewhat delusional .

Take the utility of the falcon doors , that cost Tesla a considerable amount.

FYI the phrase is 'psychobabble' and has nothing to do with so-called psychics. I don't think it's 'equally plausible' that Elon is 'somewhat delusional' either. He may be wrong about Bitcoin but how delusional can the CEO of SpaceX and Tesla really be given what he's accomplished? Of course, Elon will be wrong here and there because he's human—but only just. Delusional? Too strong a word.

Falcon Doors are not just about utility. 'Cool' factor is important, and EVs had to wrestle with being 'uncool' before Tesla came along and changed all of this almost single-handedly. Being stupid quick doesn't hurt either. No need for marketing....just pull up next to a Tesla at a stoplight and watch the 'ad' unfold.

I think every genius is confused for a madman some of the time, to Stealth's point. :D
 
Alright, who jinxed the stock price?

Any of you options whisperers have any thoughts on where they're looking to push this thing today? Clearly a walkdown but where are they going?

edit: here we go.

edit..nevermind. they keep going for the big push but then it gets bought up right away. good sign! Still think it's going lower before a hard bounce.

YOU.
 
Don’t buy this psychic babble explanation, it’s pure rationalization
Equally plausible is that he is somewhat delusional .

Take the utility of the falcon doors , that cost Tesla a considerable amount.

You have to admit though that Elon has some pretty powerful first principles thinking skills, which gives him this strange ability to "see beyond" everything that is irrelevant and somehow find the most direct path to big solutions?
 
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Don’t buy this psychic babble explanation, it’s pure rationalization
Equally plausible is that he is somewhat delusional .

It flew over your head. I was saying the explanation wasn't psychic powers or witchcraft, it was simple analysis through observation. If you understand how the world works now, how it arrived at this point from a previous point and what trends are in play, then a person with the neurons wired the right way can see the most likely future than better than most of us.

Some people are not adept at even understanding how the world works now or how we got to where we are. Elon's outsized and out-numbered successes show beyond any reasonable doubt that he is more suited to be making effective decisions than most people. And that he's not delusional (at all). Delusional people fail because they have a distorted view of reality. That's proof that he's not delusional. Elon may do things in unconventional ways but he could not be as successful being more conventional. Of course none of this is to say he doesn't make mistakes, everyone does.

It's better to measure success or failure by the results rather than whether you think the method employed is the most effective way. The results don't lie. The bottom line is where did you end up? You don't have to answer that - I was talking about Elon Musk, not you.;)
 
I guess the last few weeks would have been a good time to earn some income by writing options.

I'm still accumulating a few shares here and there (including today at $844). So I have no issues with this consolidation on low volume. Gives me opportunity to accumulate without FOMO.
I've considered selling some but I was too afraid that Biden might pump out his EV tax credit and cause a spike.
 
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