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Genius Gordo says he would be selling the stock this week because the street estimates will be lower due to the delay in Giga Berlin....
Short term prediction: SMR hilarity about to ensue.
Also, spotted on Twitter:
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Short term prediction: SMR hilarity about to ensue.
Also, spotted on Twitter:
corduroy
Active Member
I actually owned the American version of that. It only started about 50% of the time.
Phobi
Member
Wondering if I should be thankful to the shrills for giving me a mulligan from not buying before the rise on Friday 
Cheers go out to all the Musky longs
Cheers go out to all the Musky longs
Joe F
Disruption is hard.
Bless his evil little heart.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Useless people like GJ like nothing more than people trashing them. They simply need attention to remain relevant.
We're literally keeping this guy's career afloat posting, linking, and talking about his nonsense.
We're literally keeping this guy's career afloat posting, linking, and talking about his nonsense.
Apple doesn't produce any news articles itself, Apple news is an iOS/Mac app that aggregates other media sources and is free to use.
(There is a premium tier "News+" which provides access to various paid magazines/news sources etc for a flat monthly fee.)
So, is Starlink going to have 1500 satellites in orbit by end of tomorrow? I love this.
Exactly right - the best thing that this community can do is ignore the idiot trolls completely - they thrive on getting reactions from Tesla bulls.
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
Yes, there is a tool to check out who pays the tools. You have one and I have one. But it's not the kind of tool where you can just press a button and have the answer spit out.
I've just decided they weren't worth my time. But, IMO, Chanos probably pays (or paid) Linette Lopez (and other so-called journalists), maybe not in the normal manner of compensating an employee under the table but something more akin to setting aside a small portion of a short position periodically. Probably puts with a specific expiration. The share price needs to be driven down to pay out but the lower the share price goes, the bigger the payday. That way he can encourage many negative stories at very low cost (if they don't knock the share price down far enough) and the journalists are encouraged to keep trying to hit the big payday.
Maybe some day one of these journalists will spill the beans. But I don't know why they would unless they resisted the offer - it's not a good look.
Clean Technica did a series on the topic of negative Tesla reporting where they measured and compiled the number of positive and negative Tesla stories but it looks like they suddenly stopped on Feb. 11, 2019 after 23 weekly stories on this topic:
Each week they provide a link to a spreadsheet containing: the article titles, the author and their rating (negative, neutral or positive). If I were going to investigate this, I would start there. Then I would send an e-mail to every author listed, even the ones who tended to be neutral, and say you were working on a study of people who try to exploit journalists for financial gain in the markets and ask if they had any interesting stories to tell.
Could be interesting.
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Just be aware that a fully ignored troll’s final desperate grasps at relevance will include the creation of antagonistic personas in order to maintain controversy.
He will create Tesla bull personalities to argue with him even if we all don’t.
When (if) I retire for the last time, that could be an entertaining hobby.Yes, there is a tool to check out who pays the tools. You have one and I have one. But it's not the kind of tool where you can just press a button and have the answer spit out.
I've just decided they weren't worth my time. But, IMO, Chanos probably pays (or paid) Linette Lopez (and other so-called journalists), maybe not in the normal manner of compensating an employee under the table but something more akin to setting aside a small portion of a short position periodically. Probably puts with a specific expiration. The share price needs to be driven down to pay out but the lower the share price goes, the bigger the payday. That way he can encourage many negative stories at very low cost (if they don't knock the share price down far enough) and the journalists are encouraged to keep trying to hit the big payday.
Maybe some day one of these journalists will spill the beans. But I don't know why they would unless they resisted the offer - it's not a good look.
Clean Technica did a series on the topic of negative Tesla reporting where they measured and compiled the number of positive and negative Tesla stories but it looks like they suddenly stopped on Feb. 11, 2019 after 23 weekly stories on this topic:
Each week they provide a link to a spreadsheet containing: the article titles, the author and their rating (negative, neutral or positive). If I were going to investigate this, I would start there. Then I would send an e-mail to every author listed, even the ones who tended to be neutral, and say you were working on a study of people who try to exploit journalists for financial gain in the markets and ask if they had any interesting stories to tell.
Could be interesting.
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
True. A low share price is even better for the workers than the way it provides another buying opportunity for us. Because as long as a worker keeps going to work, it's just like finding more coin in the couch cushions. Stock options pay out based on the difference in price between issue and exercise. The best scenario for Tesla as a company, is a share price that goes up a predictable amount every year. It will never realize that of course but this is why it's not good for the price to get ahead of itself - it creates the impression in the minds of workers that their options issued at the high price will never be worth much.
This is how it's possible for it to be good for the long-term goals of the company to prevent a big rally in the share price or tamp one down that had already happened (before a bunch of employees were issued new options). Not that it would be legal or proper to do that!
gabeincal
Active Member
Fremont flyover - May 3, 2021
The factory is buzzing again: there is new construction behind the GA 4.5 line, refresh S&X and Semi on the track and delivery lot half full. It seems they were painting the delivery lot guiding lines over the weekend - work is still ongoing. Enjoy
The factory is buzzing again: there is new construction behind the GA 4.5 line, refresh S&X and Semi on the track and delivery lot half full. It seems they were painting the delivery lot guiding lines over the weekend - work is still ongoing. Enjoy
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
That's funny, I heard Melinda found out Bill had been shorting TSLA!
I heard Melinda is getting ready to short Bill.
Man, there are some serious rich divorcées in the Pacific Northwest. I need to get to Seattle more often.
To be fair - Tesla itself did change the wording in their quarterly report for when Berlin production and deliveries to start from "2021" to "late 2021" in last weeks report. Now that isn't technically a delay, but does move the range of possible earliest deliveries to "late" in the year vs previously being theoretically possible at anytime in 2021.
EXCLUSIVE: Tesla Giga Berlin isn’t facing a 6-month delay: German Minister
Tesla Giga Berlin is the electric automaker’s first European production facility, and it is slated to begin production of the Model Y crossover later this year. However, reports out of Germany indicate that Tesla’s German EV manufacturing facility is poised to be delayed six months due to...www.teslarati.com
However, Economic Minister Jörg Steinbach, who has been one of Tesla’s most vocal supporters in their quest to open the German facility, isn’t buying the six-month delay story at all. Steinbach still believes Tesla is on pace for a late-Summer or early-Autumn start at Giga Berlin.
“I don’t have the faintest idea of how anyone can come up with a six-month delay. If nothing happens out of the ordinary, I still expect a start of production in late Summer or Early Autumn.”
-Jörg Steinbach, German Economic Minister
Edit to add: from Elon's opening remarks on conference call last week: "...we expect to have initial limited production from those factories this year and volume production from Texas and Berlin next year."
Reaching volume "next year" technically means any time between Jan 1st to Dec 31st 2022.
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Also worth noting that Tesla removed Berlin model 3 from being "in development" to no longer being mentioned at all. that actually happened in Q4 report but I don't recall discussion here about it. So I guess a Berlin model 3 isn't happening anytime in the next year or two, and Tesla will rely on China for model 3 for EU instead.
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JRP3
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They thrive on getting booked as contrarians on "news" programs. Nothing to do with us at all, other than to keep pointing out how wrong they are.
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