[your quote] But the invisible hand of the markets should be fixing it!
[...] The invisible hand will fix it, right?
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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[...] The invisible hand will fix it, right?
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StealthP3D
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The entire reason I mentioned this at all was because Tesla detractors were using the existence of the Cybertruck's bed wings as a reason why it couldn't sell well. Not only will it sell well, the bed wings will not hinder the most commonly cited tasks they allegedly prevent.
FTFY
The Cybertruck was not designed for the Australian market. If the Aussies are patient, they will eventually be able to get a Cybertruck in Australia. It's not going to be for many years from now.
As far as loading sand/gravel from a bucket, this is typically not a job for a 1/2 ton truck . One yard of gravel, which doesn't go far in the construction industry, weighs ~1.35 tons. Yet this is the most cited reason by Tesla detractors why the wing sides will prevent the Cybertruck from competing well against legacy ICE trucks.
However, if you have ever seen a 1/3 yard or 1/2 yard bucket of gravel loaded in a pickup bed, you would know the loader operator has to have the bucket tilted all the way back as the load is driven over the bed. Once the bucket is in the proper position it is lowered to the height at which the prongs or lip on the bottom of the bucket won't contact the bottom of the bed as the bucket is rotated forward and the load spills out. The wings will not interfere with this operation. However, this is very hard on a light-duty truck bed, regardless of whether the wings are there or not because the wings will not require a higher drop height than no wings. Even on a flatbed with 6- 8" bed sides (wooden boards) staked in, the loader has to drop the load so the bottom lip of the bucket does not contact the bed surface and the pile of gravel is free of the bucket.
This is not what people buy 1/2 ton trucks for, small loads of gravel are almost always hauled by 1-ton flatbeds with payload capacities around 2-3 1/3 tons. It's a story made up by Tesla detractors.
Again, the Cybertruck is designed for the largest 1/2 ton pickup truck market in the world, North America. Cab/chassis sales are almost never 1/2 ton light-duty trucks. Cab and chassis sales are heavy-duty trucks. I'm not sure where you got this idea that cab/chassis sales were significant in this market.
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Well if you could drop the front or the whole cyber truck yes. So the bucket of a front end loader can drop the load without hitting side of the bed closest to the front. You want the bucket to go over the side and down so you are not dropping the load from 3 or more feet and messing up the bed or suspension with a gravity enhanced drop. dirt is more forgiving then firewood.
Kneeling the back of course makes it much easier to load some things from the rear.
CYBERTRUCK discussion to its appropriate thread. No more here - don’t even try to say gravel-loading particulars are relevant in an investor thread
LiveLong&Profit
Member
So you're saying that Ford are spying on their drivers?Um, Ford's autonomy capability was shown at the reveal, it was one of the top features shown, and here is an article on it.
Ford F-150 Lightning Electric Pickup to Have Level 2 Autonomous Driving - AI Trends
The Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup will offer level 2 autonomous driving for certain models for a fee later this year via an over-the-air update.www.aitrends.com
Interesting experience with mobile service today. Dude showed up in a beat up 85D with Illinois plates here in Virginia. I asked him about the plates and he said no idea and the tags have been expired for 5 months. He had apparently complained to the management 3 times about them, but it was not high up on their list to get fixed. Looks like they're still in startup mode.
Anyways, he changed out the cabin air filters and thanked me profusely for buying one of the earliest 3s and 'saving' the company.
Anyways, he changed out the cabin air filters and thanked me profusely for buying one of the earliest 3s and 'saving' the company.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
I told him to wait for the first wreck. With those power levels I'd bet someone will wad one up well before he can raise funds and get one delivered.
The use of carbon fiber in the motor has got me wondering if Tesla will pursue more uses for it in their vehicles, namely the Roadster.
It would seem that a carbon fiber chassis could have way more pro's than con's. Assuming it can be made and recycled sustainably of course.
Also, it is interesting that we didn't come across a JD (Job Description) posting on Tesla for a materials engineer with carbon expertise. I wonder how many they have already?
While I don't think it is highly probable, I could see this as a discussion point for folks to ponder.
I don't think BMW is currently fully utilizing the carbon plan in Moses Lake, WA. I'd bet they could get it for cheap!
It would seem that a carbon fiber chassis could have way more pro's than con's. Assuming it can be made and recycled sustainably of course.
Also, it is interesting that we didn't come across a JD (Job Description) posting on Tesla for a materials engineer with carbon expertise. I wonder how many they have already?
While I don't think it is highly probable, I could see this as a discussion point for folks to ponder.
I don't think BMW is currently fully utilizing the carbon plan in Moses Lake, WA. I'd bet they could get it for cheap!
Drumheller
Active Member
With the value provided in those tear downs, I think this fundraiser is an extreme bargain. I hope it funds very quickly.
I actually think he's very smart, TBH I like him (boo on me!), but he's being paid handsomely to lie, and that must be very dispiriting for a hard working and honest man like Gordon
Sending thoughts and prayers...
Thumper
Active Member
I have mixed feelings about Sandy doing a Plaid tear down. Good publicity, but reveals at least some Tesla tech advances to the competition without them having to pay for it.
Teslarati - today: Tesla’s market disruption may lead to healthy slice of global auto market: Mizuho
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Mizuho is bullish on the idea that TSLA could gain further traction in the EV market by leaving behind legacy companies and newcomers to the BEV sector due to its overwhelming lead in battery tech and autonomous driving developments. The company’s considerable lead in both of these categories makes it a prime candidate to begin even more disruption of the global automotive market. Mizuho believes Tesla could achieve at least 10% of the total market share in the coming years.
Rakesh is ranked 93 out of 7,551 analysts on TipRanks and holds a five-star rating with an average return of 26.3% and a success rate of 69%. He holds Tesla with an $820.00 price target and a “Buy” rating for the stock.
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Generally bullish response to that on CNBC - half hour ago:
Tesla shares fall despite buy call — Two traders on whether now is the time to get in
Excerpt:
Mizuho is bullish on the idea that TSLA could gain further traction in the EV market by leaving behind legacy companies and newcomers to the BEV sector due to its overwhelming lead in battery tech and autonomous driving developments. The company’s considerable lead in both of these categories makes it a prime candidate to begin even more disruption of the global automotive market. Mizuho believes Tesla could achieve at least 10% of the total market share in the coming years.
Rakesh is ranked 93 out of 7,551 analysts on TipRanks and holds a five-star rating with an average return of 26.3% and a success rate of 69%. He holds Tesla with an $820.00 price target and a “Buy” rating for the stock.
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Generally bullish response to that on CNBC - half hour ago:
Tesla shares fall despite buy call — Two traders on whether now is the time to get in
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Timing, by the time Sandy completes his tear down, Tesla will have evolved.
Convoy assist could help other Tesla's plan, schedule, gather and join the convoy, especially for long trips on the same highways. THAT would warrant high occupancy lane use where available. How cool would platoons of Teslas hypermiling 6' apart be, dutifully rotating their first-in-line position, occasional short-timers occasionally joining and leaving, occasionally partaking of the occasional integral, non-stop high-speed Boring Company tunnels, bypassing occasional congestion-prone urban areas, all while lowering supercharger use.
One good set of Boring Company tunnels between, say, New Jersey and Manhattan, or any long-overdue proposed place where a subway line has been needed for many years, would be an excellent disruption to subways and traditional tunnel building, with their union-bloated expenses.
I hope some Tesla engineers read this too, @CLK350 !
Krugerrand
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Boy, you called that! You got lotto numbers for this week too? I can narrow down what numbers not to put on my 🎟.
It’s definitely under $700!Boy, you called that! You got lotto numbers for this week too? I can narrow down what numbers not to put on my 🎟.
mltv
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Mustang Mach-E 1400 May Drag Race Tesla Model S Plaid, Officially
The Tesla Model S Plaid is the quickest production car ever built. The Mustang Mach-E 1400 is reportedly incredible as well. It's time to see which is quicker.
The Nasdaq 100 has been under pressure all day, as it drags down high beta TSLA. This during a two-day FOMC meeting from which monetary policy will be revealed tomorrow afternoon. Anticipation of that may be making some traders risk averse. There's also concern about a new Covid variant. Finally, there is the positioning for the quarterly (Triple Witching) options expiration on Friday.
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