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We have 3 PowerWalls. Don’t know of any alternative that does what they do and provide seamless integration with our panels, house, utility company, and vehicles. All via one app.
Krugerrand
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It works itself out or it doesn’t. We hope it does and normally I’d say don’t hold your breath. However, Elon Musk now sits on the Twitter board and promising changes. It’s the start we needed. And if Twitter is too slow for Elon, guess what he does next?
Only a raven madman would crow on about the Corvid lockdown in Shanghai. Sorry, had to do it.
snellenr
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Elon: "The corporation (Twitter) needs to reduce staffing costs and increase freedom of speech!"It works itself out or it doesn’t. We hope it does and normally I’d say don’t hold your breath. However, Elon Musk now sits on the Twitter board and promising changes. It’s the start we needed. And if Twitter is too slow for Elon, guess what he does next?
Board (rolling eyes): "We've looked at that repeatedly, and there's just no way to do both!"
Elon: "Here's a list of accounts to restore."
Yeah, I wouldn't go with those estimates. The EPA testing docs show that it weighs 25 pounds less, and the MPGe estimate is only 1 MPGe higher. (And is actually lower for the highway.) So I would say energy usage is basically the same, as they are both rated 28 kWh/100 miles:
Tesla says 10%. structural pack by itself accounts for 80kg or so, but each of the front and rear castings eliminate >150 parts, plus provide suspension mounts and other high weight pieces, without considering fasteners and welds, but of which are more complex, heavier and more effort to install.
We have no way at all to suggest any specific vehicle range effector 2680 vs 2170. Why? because the range depends on battery capacity and thus far we have not known the battery capacity in any 4680 models. Now that there ahem been deliveries we can find out. Until them comparable range is unknown. We do know that battery capacity can decline without commensurate range diminution.
For reference compare Model S P100D and Plaid for performance and range then consider the battery capacity. Once you do that you might think again about your conclusions. Hint! My Plaid has a smaller battery than did the P100D. Yet the new ones has better absolute efficiency, much higher range and magnificently better performance.
Once there are enough 4680's we will all begin to see some actual daily performance and more vehicle types.
thesmokingman
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I think the Honda E is still better looking. There's something about that Smart video that is a turn off besides the concept like interior, its too superficial but that's just me. I wish the Honda E's were sold here.
This is super cute, but it’s not a Tesla. I hope Tesla comes out with a small sedan (model 2?)!
At 7:58 is a good shot of the interior and the behind the yoke instrument cluster.
And at 8:09, it sure looks like the back is open (i.e. the back window goes down).
But at 9:00, the second prototype doesn't have an instrument cluster.
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Acceleration drop is from change of motor in Q1, I have Q4 MIC SR+ with 60kWh LFP and old motor
So now I can have a car with almost a Commodore (as in C64, not Holden) logo on the side. It looks nice. Probably wont see these in volume for years. They are not being sold in the USA at least for now.
This is super cute, but it’s not a Tesla
ZachF
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There appear to be growing riots in Shanghai
Sounds like Shanghai will remain in shutdown for a minimum of 14 more days.
It’s a bit more complicated than that. Almost every community has active cases and the expectation is that the new rules will continue at least until May. This chart that Jay shared explains it better:
If the new SR weighs 25lbs less, the improvement in city driving efficiency makes sense, but I don’t understand the small drop in highway efficiency.
As far as we know, the MY SR is using the same wheels, and there are no changes that affect the drag. My only guess is that they are being conservative with the new 4680 and the BMS is using more energy to keep the cells at an ideal temperature range. If that’s the case, the range can improve with an OTA after some validation of the 4680 cells.
I'm sure Elon reads TMC also.
So after reading the speculation on the Texas made Model Y stats..., he replies:
In other words:
Model Y with structured battery pack is software locked in every performance metric to avoid Osbourne effect
So after reading the speculation on the Texas made Model Y stats..., he replies:
In other words:
Model Y with structured battery pack is software locked in every performance metric to avoid Osbourne effect
StealthP3D
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It's not a "shame".
Tesla/Elon Musk are masters at building brand image. Some of that involves what it doesn't involve. Human brains are masters at categorizing, associating like things together, etc. and it does most of that subconsciously, automatically. Sometimes what you are *not* is just as important as what you are. Elon knows what he is doing.
In this case, yes, Tesla is a large for-profit corporation - that cannot be denied. But they have no desire to reinforce that and be associated with every other large corporation out there who have less than stellar reputations on multiple fronts.
Tesla has all the brand awareness they need at this stage of the game. It's definitely *not* a shame that they are protecting their reputation by discouraging traditional media coverage of the same type that any other large corporation would receive. Elon understands what many advertising executives are not willing to disclose to their clients. Namely, that once you have pimped yourself out and joined the status quo, there really is no going back.
Tesla wants news of CyberRodeo to spread organically, it's much more powerful when you hear it from a friend or co-worker.
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Have Shanghai residents had their needs met? or is the issue getting more acute?
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