Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[MartinAustin]

So... down nearly 3% with all this positive outlook stuff going on?

 

[elasalle]

This isn't confidence. This is an attempt to squeeze the company dry in preparation for the next bailout.

Math must have changed with Inflation Reduction Act and ability to up the price of upcoming EV's.
Mgmt must have decided whether to fund more factories or give shareholder dividends

 

[Opus BC fan]

So what is the rationalization of the day for the markets? (or should I say MMs?)

 

[Mengy]

So... down nearly 3% with all this positive outlook stuff going on?

To be fair the entire market is down. Except for GM which is up over 2% because they reinstituted dividends, but only a small fraction of the dividends they used to have before the pandemic.

I'm not sure WHY the market is down. Could be Germany energy concerns, could be BBBY crashing hard, not sure.

 

[wtlloyd]

So what is the rationalization of the day for the markets? (or should I say MMs?)

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

 

[JRP3]

So what is the rationalization of the day for the markets? (or should I say MMs?)

BBBY drop, Cineworld, (Regal Cinemas), bankruptcy.

 

[Artful Dodger]

So... down nearly 3% with all this positive outlook stuff going on?

What, the long march to $880? It's been on the books since Thu at 7 a.m.

MMs will brute-force any PT they want (young Captain) and cover A/hrs or Monday. "I'm not afraid to surf this beach"...

Cheers!

 

[elasalle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1560630987729817600

 

[elasalle]

So what is the rationalization of the day for the markets? (or should I say MMs?)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1560626455255687169

Europe banks have been raising rates past couple of days as well ...

 

[lafrisbee]

BBBY shows how easy the Stock market can be manipulated by intelligent, greedy people with money. Whether meme or MM.
-ant

(But don't expect the Feds to notice.)

 

[Opus BC fan]

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

 

[Krugerrand]

So what is the rationalization of the day for the markets? (or should I say MMs?)

Simply to make money, any way, any how.

 

[AndrewZ]

That's not how Germany works. Those industrial operations and workers will be protected thru this winter and expensive gas will be subsidized.

The alternative is what you describe above. They can easily avoid that, so they will.

Natural gas prices in Europe are shooting up specifically to reduce demand, they won't then turn around and subsidize it for industry and drive demand back up. Germany needs to stockpile natural gas for little things like preventing its citizens from losing heat and freezing during the winter, industrial uses will take a back seat to building inventories for residential heating during the cold months.

High prices are one powerful tool for reducing consumption and that's entirely the point. If they do end up getting enough gas into storage, supply-demand dynamics will balance, prices will come down, and subsidizing wouldn't be necessary.

 

[ToTheStars]

So what is the rationalization of the day for the markets? (or should I say MMs?)

The maximum pain is $875 today.
Source: Stock Option Max Pain

 

[TheTalkingMule]

Green yet?

 

[Mengy]

Green yet?

It doesn't feel like a green kind of day to me...

 

[ZachF]

So at 88 million barrels per day, that cuts demand by 1/88, or about 1%.

If Tesla hits its 20m per year goal they will only displace 1% per year. We really need the other automakers to step up.

There are over a billion ICE autos in the world. Replacing them all is gonna take time…

 

[Artful Dodger]

【Aug.19.2022】Tesla Shanghai factory update this week Production for export \ Giga shanghai\4K # 455 | Wu Wa on Youtube

 

[ZsoZso]

The maximum pain is $875 today.
Source: Stock Option Max Pain

But there are more Puts at 900 than Calls:

Based on the Open Interest chart, closing around 910 would be more beneficial to MMs.

 

[StarFoxisDown!]

But there are more PUTs at 900 than calls:
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Based on the Open Interest chart, closing around 910 would be more beneficial to MMs.

By far MM's care less about Put walls than they do Call Walls. If you take the time to go back through prior weeks over the past 2 years, you'll see that trend.