-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
- Thread starter AudubonB
- Start date
Esme Es Mejor
Member
Just a note: Joe Rogan is far from a right-winger. He describes himself very liberal, and as a regular listener to his podcast, I would agree him. He seems to get lumped in with conservatives because he’s an ardent defender of free speech & and listening to all sides— which used to be a liberal issue— so he’s had lots of conservative guests on his podcast. But he still has far more liberal guests than conservatives.
Munro says Chinese building factory "like ants on a doughnut" LMAO 
My current broker, Keytrade, is the cheapest in Belgium - seriously!
It’s $30 for a common shares buy
On the other hand, zero capital gains tax...
BTW, Munro says everyone is buying the Model 3 report, they are making most of their $$ of that report, lol.
Buddyroe
Active Member
Hey, don't I get a cut!
I tell you what. I won't post any more. Instead, I'll send you my thoughts and feelings privately, and you tell me how to trade accordingly. We'll both get rich - instead of just you!
Munro says Toyota opening up electric/hybrid patents like putting out Trojan horse (@KarenRei are you currently in Michgan?). Says for example why would anyone waste time copying i3 motor (vs. Model 3).
ZachF
Active Member
Munro says Chinese falling all over themselves trying to figure out rear motor in model 3.
"Elon Musk is the only hero in the United States"
I really didn't care for the guy initially... I didn't like the car at first...Who else do we got in the United States. Tesla is the only hero in the U.S."
"Elon Musk is the only hero in the United States"
I really didn't care for the guy initially... I didn't like the car at first...Who else do we got in the United States. Tesla is the only hero in the U.S."
Keytrade sends a mail the day before an option expires with a very elaborate explanation on what your trading options are the following day, and this mail also clearly states that the default (i.e. if you don’t do anything that would prevent this) is auto-sell at 17:00.
You probably didn’t get that email for the option you bought during the pre-market hours, but you should have gotten the email for the option you already bought a long time ago.
Anyway, now you know
. Nobody learns option trading without scars. 
anthonyj
Stonks
TT007 is still here in the TA thread and on Twitter. When the stock is acting a tad bullish like last week and he starts posting in that thread with 5 charts, sell. It’s actually an amazing indicator
Also, whenever I say “WTF Elon...” or criticize Him, buy
anthonyj
Stonks
Uhmmm uhmmm hashtag TSLAQ on twitter. I think they’re reliable. They even have a ClipArt circus chart guy who isn’t biased at all
Explains the reaction to his posts there recently. Hilarious.
If you do nothing else, watch from 1:25:20 on the Sandy Munro interview. He talks about the future of Tesla, and while he just says that they're going to be just fine, the way he says it is, well, interesting.
Edit: But seriously, watch it all. It's very, very interesting.
Edit: But seriously, watch it all. It's very, very interesting.
What he states about Tesla reducing wire to just 300ft or so and using bluetooth (his guess, but I don't think so) to various OEM parts is interesting.
And of course why you don't want to take up Toyota on their free patent deal on synergy hybrid system. Its old tech and Toyota has moved on to something better.
jhm
Well-Known Member
Got to hear John Mellott, former publisher of Atlanta Journal-Constitution, discuss the evolution of news media. He was very clear about the following points:
News is business.
Advertisers are the customers.
Readers/viewers are the product.
Media organization focus immense research on how viewer react to stories to optimize attention.
So from this perspective, journalist have a basic financial motive to report on whatever builds an audience, and news outlets will compete with each other for this audience.
How does this help us understand the onslaught of negative reporting on Musk and Tesla? We can think about how there is a market for such reporting. There had been an earlier market for news that featured how forward looking Musk and Tesla were, but this story got old after several years. Journalist who took a more critical view of Musk started to attract more attention. As the audience shifted to such stories, reporters competed with each other to get the attention of this audience. We saw mild mannered reporter Dana Hull go from being the Tesla fanboy's friend to becoming the trollfriend of $TSLAQ. This transformation only took about a year.
Well, I am starting to get the feeling that anti-Tesla sentiment has played out. It is bizarre, debased, and worse than all that not so interesting anymore. We may see the news media shift to new, more balanced, even sympathetic coverage. Even the Fox Business coverage is suggestive that playing Musk as the beaten down victim of the SEC who nevertheless struggles on to make great American cars (analogous to Trump getting beaten up over silly tweets) may just be the narrative that plays to their audience. So if the research shows strong response, Fox will keep pushing this sort of coverage. Moreover, because media outlets compete for audience, these competitors will be trying out new narratives around Musk and Tesla too. So I do think the anti-Tesla framing is overplayed and a loser for media going forward. Musk is too big a personality for the media to simply leave him alone. So I think we will see some new media framing. Once the industry figures out how best to grab audience again, the whole pack could start heading in that direction.
I do think Tesla is in a good place for this sort of media pivot. The stock price is thoroughly beaten down in spite of huge gains in fundamental, Musk is the "victim" of regulator overreach, Tesla bear predictions and shorts are an fn joke, Tesla is the one US automaker that growing aggressively at home and abroad, presidential race will include outlooks on job creation and ingenuity, and so on and so on. So there really are a lot of interesting story lines the media can latch onto.
But be careful. If the media pivots and the stock price shoots to $500 or $600, know that the media can pivot yet again and the stock price tumble back to $370 all over again. So don't lose your bearings in the next hype cycle.
News is business.
Advertisers are the customers.
Readers/viewers are the product.
Media organization focus immense research on how viewer react to stories to optimize attention.
So from this perspective, journalist have a basic financial motive to report on whatever builds an audience, and news outlets will compete with each other for this audience.
How does this help us understand the onslaught of negative reporting on Musk and Tesla? We can think about how there is a market for such reporting. There had been an earlier market for news that featured how forward looking Musk and Tesla were, but this story got old after several years. Journalist who took a more critical view of Musk started to attract more attention. As the audience shifted to such stories, reporters competed with each other to get the attention of this audience. We saw mild mannered reporter Dana Hull go from being the Tesla fanboy's friend to becoming the trollfriend of $TSLAQ. This transformation only took about a year.
Well, I am starting to get the feeling that anti-Tesla sentiment has played out. It is bizarre, debased, and worse than all that not so interesting anymore. We may see the news media shift to new, more balanced, even sympathetic coverage. Even the Fox Business coverage is suggestive that playing Musk as the beaten down victim of the SEC who nevertheless struggles on to make great American cars (analogous to Trump getting beaten up over silly tweets) may just be the narrative that plays to their audience. So if the research shows strong response, Fox will keep pushing this sort of coverage. Moreover, because media outlets compete for audience, these competitors will be trying out new narratives around Musk and Tesla too. So I do think the anti-Tesla framing is overplayed and a loser for media going forward. Musk is too big a personality for the media to simply leave him alone. So I think we will see some new media framing. Once the industry figures out how best to grab audience again, the whole pack could start heading in that direction.
I do think Tesla is in a good place for this sort of media pivot. The stock price is thoroughly beaten down in spite of huge gains in fundamental, Musk is the "victim" of regulator overreach, Tesla bear predictions and shorts are an fn joke, Tesla is the one US automaker that growing aggressively at home and abroad, presidential race will include outlooks on job creation and ingenuity, and so on and so on. So there really are a lot of interesting story lines the media can latch onto.
But be careful. If the media pivots and the stock price shoots to $500 or $600, know that the media can pivot yet again and the stock price tumble back to $370 all over again. So don't lose your bearings in the next hype cycle.
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
