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Unlikely, plus they'll have the SR+ upgrade stream of income. They want to sell more SR+'s until take rate is so high, without taking the $35k option completely away.
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Unlikely, plus they'll have the SR+ upgrade stream of income. They want to sell more SR+'s until take rate is so high, without taking the $35k option completely away.
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Pezpunk
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where are you getting this information? the letter i see says "All Tesla vehicles now come with Autopilot bundled as a standard feature for less than the prior cost of the option."
Maybe the word "all" has some alternate meaning that i'm not aware of?
Pras
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Fact Checking
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Sorry, bad logic, the more plausible reason is that SR+ is 85%+ of the orders:
"Since then, Standard Plus has sold at more than six times the rate of Standard, far exceeding our expectations."
They also have more orders than they can fulfill, so they don't want lower margin SR sales to crowd out higher margin SR+ sales.
Can't it be included, just not activated unless the buyer upgrades to SR+ at a later time?
I just can't see them raising the 35K price so soon. I mean that's always been the promise. The sugar would hit the fan if that goes away, at least by the FUD bearers.
I’ll bet we will see SR make it’s comeback in Shanghai. I’m confident it could be made profitable over there. Agree with others that Tesla isn’t really wanting to accept a loss on it right now.
RobStark
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Or they are production constrained.
And Tesla would rather make $6k profit on base car than $1500.
Pras
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Mars ☰mperor
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Nope, $1,000 since the beginning.
I remember it clearly because that's my option
Well, they haven't applied that to the S, X, or Y yet... Maybe they meant all Model 3s?
powertoold
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Tesla cracks me up. Does anyone really think the Tesla Network will be up and running in the next 3 years?
I'm really curious about the Autonomy day, but I feel like it's going to be a disappointment, i.e. "we stop at stoplights and stop signs!"
Neural nets aren't good enough percentage-wise to be dependable for FSD yet and getting an extra 5% in accuracy may not be possible...
I'm really curious about the Autonomy day, but I feel like it's going to be a disappointment, i.e. "we stop at stoplights and stop signs!"
Neural nets aren't good enough percentage-wise to be dependable for FSD yet and getting an extra 5% in accuracy may not be possible...
Fact Checking
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You are right, Autopilot is not excluded:
"Its range will be limited by 10%, and several features will be disabled via software (including our onboard music streaming service, navigation with live traffic visualization, and heated seats). "
Plus they cited Autopilot as a safety feature, and they always bundled those.
I've deleted my comment, it's wrong.
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ZachF
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Perhaps one reason Musk doesn’t want to build out GF1?
In his biography, I remember reading Steve Jobs' son pointed out that the original design for the Spaceship Campus had an, er, unfortunate organic resemblance. The design was changed.
Honestly the whole $35k proclamation thing is an embarrassment that should have never happened.
Tesla can obviously start to get their ride sharing software ready and may start with manned Teslas first. Similar to Waymo's with a backup driver in the car.
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powertoold
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They should have just stopped at the SR+, which to me, is better than the base 35K (in terms of value).
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