Probably this one:
'Fed’s Bostic says Fed will need to raise interest rates to 5%-5.25% range and leave it there ‘until well into 2024’
(Marketwatch at 10:08)
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Probably this one:
'Fed’s Bostic says Fed will need to raise interest rates to 5%-5.25% range and leave it there ‘until well into 2024’
(Marketwatch at 10:08)
Artful Dodger
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Nominated for "Moderators' Choice: Posts of Particular Merit". Thank-you, Gene.
1. Its the way the market works. Tesla presently updates its cars now visually. Why the urberturbine wheels? A visually change, Why change the headlights on the 3? A visual change to keep things fresh. Highland, looks to be a visual front change, along with new base wheels. Again a visual change. The same demo that buys Teslas change their expensive phones every year, they expect updates.
2. You speak to a point I mentioned last month. Tesla is knowingly or unknowingly training people to wait on the sidelines for the next price drop. I am waiting next to you but for a Model 3. Now a Highland Model 3. Call it demand levers or whatever one wants, but its training the market to wait.
The above is not bad, its the real world and consumer market we live in.
SunCatcher
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gene, you have massive levels of love and support surrounding you. That, along with the great advantages of modern medical science and brilliantly skilled doctors and support teams, will have you coming through this and on the road to full recovery faster than a new Model S Plaid!
As a man your same age and with a coronary calcium score (get one you older guys & gals) in the undesirable high zone, I may well be following your current trajectory sometime in the not too distant future. And we've all heard how some patients actually feel better than they had been feeling for years afterward. Aren't we all so very lucky to be living in such times?
And just so you know; you are right there in that group of individuals that I feel an elevated level of gratitude towards. If it weren't for you and those few others who took a risk, and supported the Tesla mission so early on, it simply would not have happened, period. We'd all still be looking towards an endless future of breathing toxic fumes from emissions spewing out of the vast myriad of machines burning fossil fuels. There is now a great chance that those days are numbered in significantly smaller amounts. Without the success of Tesla, in my humble opinion, there is NO WAY we'd be heading towards the goal we're now destined to reach. No. Way.
Godspeed gene, and love from ALL OF US!
You will pull through friend, positive thoughts from all of us here at TMC! Make sure the first thing you do is check in here after your successful surgery!
Sure, try asking Toyota what they think. According to them the 2023 Model Y and the 2020 Model Y represent entirely different cars under look alike skin.
Anybody who's owned multiple Teslas of same model in different years knows they aren't the same. My 2014 Model S P85DL was inferior in every respect to my 2021 ModelS Plaid. The look more or less the same other than fixing the old grille but under the skin they're vast improvement, just like the Model Y discovery by Toyota.
Your statement is false for Tesla because you seemingly equate styling change to 'revamp'. That is true for many OEM's who change nothing underneath, change the skin and call that revamp.
Front and rear giga castings and structural battery pack plus heat pump and so on are massive improvements. Of course if your perspective is form and not substance you're spot on. If so, may I recommend a Chevy, perhaps, or maybe a Toyota. They'll satisfy need for form rather than substance.
Apologies for sarcasm without proper labeling.
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My hope is they start advertising, just to educate consumers on charging, road trips, safety, etc. With that simple push, I think they'll sell every one they can make, regardless of change since newbies won't know or care about the change (maybe afterwards, but not now). Only us diehards hang on every rumor, etc.
No - it's the February numbers for 2023. February is already something of the past this year.
Tesla sold more than 4 TMYs for each TM3 in February in Norway.
And I am glad I could be counted!
dhanson865
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I've been waiting for that price drop since before prices rose. Tesla has done nothing to train me to wait.
My thought before the Model Y started deliveries was to wait for the ramp up and when there was no queue, buy one after the price had dropped.
To this day Model Y still hasn't ramped enough to offset the growing demand so I'm still waiting.
If Texas produces 2x as many model Y as California that's triple the supply for me as US customer. Is that enough to get rid of the queue and drop prices? I'm betting it is. If I'm right I buy a newer lower priced car of equal quality to what I could have bought anytime in the last few years.
I and others like me are the invisible support for "demand issues", we are waiting in the wings to buy, but don't need a car this week, month, year.
Again that has nothing to do with any "training" related to past price changes.
Well, there's rather strong evidence of a model 3 refresh. And I'd expect that Tesla won't just get it up to Y level, but push some components one step further...
Thus it follows, that MY now has a gap to close and overtake again..
And my bet/wish for the Model 2 announcement:
Take a MY, put it on 15/16" wheels with street suspension, half the HP, downgrade to cloth-seats/interior with basic sound system and then squeeze it slightly smaller than a model 3 (length&width, keep the height), smooth out the shape, done.
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There was no queue and there was a massive price drop in January. If you didn't buy then, you didn't need a car then. It's not a matter of 'ramping enough'.
dhanson865
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There was a price drop in January but not "massive" compared to the overall pricing history (it negated a recent series of price increases). Zoom out.
As to queue, any emptying of the queue recently was related to end of year and inflation reduction act. I'm talking about an emptying of the queue without external factors (based on increased supply, not short term bubbles in demand).
The OTM-AWD is still off the menu, at the lest I'd expect that to be in the configurator as supply increases. I couldn't get the car in the configuration I wanted recently. I don't need the LR pack and I want the 19" wheels and Blue paint, not a config you can find in the OTM inventory easily if at all.
I'm looking for a Model Y that is cheaper than the 2021 lows and my income is low enough that I don't get the entire $7,500 credit (I'd have to be at home to look and see what my tax was but I'm thinking it was around $6k.)
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Knightshade
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To be fair- the first word we got on project highland was greeted the same way back in April 2022 because the leak came from a 3rd party roadmap document.
FWIW same doc had a new Y coming Jan 2027
insaneoctane
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I'm sure Tesla did their homework on the pricing model for charging non-Tesla vehicles....but I'd rather the subscription cost $14.99 or even $19.99 per month.
Hello sports fans. We are now 2 months into the season and team TSLA has won 2/3 of the sessions so far, an amazing turnaround from last season. There was a stretch at the beginning of this month where they won 14 of 15. With Coach Elon giving a big pep talk to the fans today, it should be an interesting season.
| Last Close: | 205.71 | |
| Margin of W/L: | -1.92 | |
| Volume: | 153,144,912 | |
| High - Low: | 7.48 | |
| Close/52 week high: | 52.3% | |
| Season | ||
| Record: | 26-13 | 0.667 |
| Total margin of wins: | 161.48 | |
| Total margin of losses: | -78.95 | |
| YTD gain/loss: | 82.53 | 67.0% |
| Best Win: | 17.63 | Jan 27 |
| Worst Loss: | -15.08 | Jan 3 |
| Last 10: | 6-4 | |
| Streak: | L1 | |
| Avg margin of victory: | 6.21 | |
| Avg margin of defeat: | -6.07 | |
| Avg Volume: | 196,791,350 | |
| Avg Volume of Last 10: | 179,683,335 | |
| Avg High - Low: | 9.83 | |
| Avg H - L of Last 10: | 10.77 |
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larmor
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And now we know why the apple platform 30% fee is important, not just for twitter.
If true, this suggests to me that they are leapfrogging. Model 3 first and fairly efficient, Model Y released and was a bit more cost effective, they iterated on the Model Y a bit, now M3 Highland comes out and is even more cost effective than the most modern Model Y. So Juniper is catching up with Highland and perhaps making it even a bit more efficient.
As usual, Tesla going the opposite direction of legacy. Legacy builds a car, then piles more and more features on it to justify higher prices. Tesla builds cars and cuts costs on producing them every chance they can get to bring the price down.
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Great new interview with Dave Lee @DaveT . I like the way he thinks Gen 3 will be a luxury car, not just equivalent to a Corolla. Seems impossible, but if Tesla can pull it off, it will be unbelievable.
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It’ll be like waiting for Godot. Tesla does a very good job with matching production with supply. It rarely carries excess inventory. Now they get upside down the other way frequently where they have too much demand, but that’s the opposite of what you are waiting for.
Great new interview with Dave Lee @DaveT . I like the way he thinks Gen 3 will be a luxury car, not just equivalent to a Corolla. Seems impossible, but if Tesla can pull it off, it will be unbelievable.
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It wouldn't be on brand to ship a stripped down POS. Current Tesla's don't have overly expensive and exotic interior materials, so the "luxury" comes from the tech and simplicity.
I expect something like the SR in terms of features. Perhaps software unlocks or maybe not. Still needs nice seats, big screen, autopilot, voice commands etc. etc.
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