I just wish instead of talking up the edge cases with strict income qualifiers he just talked up the price which most people will pay because that is pretty awesome. List the crazy income gated stuff in a separate post.
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Disappointing…
www.theguardian.com
I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped | Rowan Atkinson
Sadly, keeping your old petrol car may be better than buying an EV, says actor Rowan Atkinson
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Synthetic fuels, Hydrogen, and Solid State batteries are the Panacea???Disappointing…
I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped | Rowan Atkinson
Sadly, keeping your old petrol car may be better than buying an EV, says actor Rowan Atkinson
Maybe he has inhaled too much from his tailpipe.
He’s a smart guy. I can’t believe he fell for this and Volvo’s assessment.
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Many more big brained people with more time, energy, and money spent on real information on that link above.
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"Parked Tesla catches fire in parking lot."
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Disappointing…
I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped | Rowan Atkinson
Sadly, keeping your old petrol car may be better than buying an EV, says actor Rowan Atkinson
Is that Mr. Bean in the pic?
Honest to God, never knew they were one and the same.
”Rowan Atkinson is an actor, comedian and writer”
Another datapoint that he is an excellent comedian
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Disappointing…
I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped | Rowan Atkinson
Sadly, keeping your old petrol car may be better than buying an EV, says actor Rowan Atkinson
2018 called and wants their talking points back
Don’t rule out that he was paid to write that. Actors are just hired guns afterall.
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Toyota couldn't afford to pay that kind of money could they??
Hmmm, maybe just add it to their 100+ Billion of debt.
Really? How about their previous Plaid run? All I saw was a yoke.
So, can we leave it up to the end user preference?
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Or:
Elon Musk, Tesla CEO's who touts their FSD, or as insiders call it, "Fire Suppression Distributor", failed to put out a Fire putting many innocent civilians lives in mortal danger.....
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lafrisbee
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Seems to an ant that all this fast creeping up of TSLA has a yuan connection.
navguy12
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Yea, a buddy of mine sent me this…I had to spend time telling him the various reasons why IMO it is FUD.Disappointing…
I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped | Rowan Atkinson
Sadly, keeping your old petrol car may be better than buying an EV, says actor Rowan Atkinson
I also told him it also seemed somewhat familiar with the latest Toyota talking points.
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navguy12
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Did your also notice that his hands didn't move from the 9&3 positions in the wheel?
Probably because the wheel is standard now, and it wasn't then.
Mr. Bean was referencing a 2021 Volvo report https://www.volvocars.com/images/v/...com/pdf/c40/volvo-c40-recharge-lca-report.pdf that was debunked by a CleanTechnica report last year Unpacking The "Electric Cars Aren't As Green As You Think" Claims - CleanTechnica.
I looked at the report and it was obviously slanted against EVs.
A few points:
- The report used a relatively "dirty" global number for the source of electricity generation and did not model for a progressively cleaner electricity grid over time.
- They assumed all aluminum used was raw and not from recycled sources, therefore higher carbon footprint for EVs which use higher amounts of aluminum.
- Assumes very inefficient electricity use, 241 Wh/km, stating that's what the Volvo XC 40 gets. That's 388 Wh/mi and ludicrously high compared to Tesla.
- Assumes there is no carbon footprint benefit from recycling the vehicle at end of life, especially the battery, but weirdly counted the CO2 cost of trucking the lithium battery "1500 km" to a recycling facility.
I am overall glad to see Tesla going up. But I don’t quite understand why at the moment. Aren’t we expecting low margins from all the price cuts and at most deliveries in line with estimates? Is it all the AI hype? I’m still not convinced FSD will ever be a viable replacement for a human driver. I agree it is getting better but I’m not sure it will far exceed safety of a human driver. I do have a lot of shares so I will be ecstatic if it does work eventually. Why don’t I sell you ask? Because of the taxes and because I don’t want to miss out if Elon somehow pulls it all off. Perhaps being bombarded by a year of constant negativity has given me a more pessimistic attitude. I look at the new inventory and price cuts and I don’t see a reason to be bullish in the short term. But I’ve been wrong before many times.
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