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But that's not Tesla doing it for SpaceX.Also Tesla benefits from materials science already done
Absolutely agree that they wanted low risk. I'm not sure "they" had much say in Elon jumping into the truck bed, though. Elon will do Elon. "They" probably would have preferred that he didn't hide in the shadows for part of the presentation either, but ....
What numbers are you looking at?
Cybertruck is rated to tow 11000 lbs and haul 2500 lbs. It's not as good as the original plan, but still market-leading in its class.
But the 911 only went 1/8th, so that means the Cybertruk + trailer is actually twice as fast!The Cybertruck travelled 1/8 mile
The trailer + Porsche travelled 1/8 mile
Cumulatively they travelled a quarter mile
The ones from the 2019 CT reveal-- Which is what I said- so unsure why you were unclear what #s I was looking at? Those are the same #s that were still at tesla.com for CT a week ago until the reveal.
14k max towing capacity and 3500 lbs cargo capacity.
The production CT came in 3k less towing and 1k less cargo.
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Among EVs? Sure. Among all pickups of comparable class/size not so much- F-150 non-EV is 14k towing and 3325 cargo.
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And anyway, there are many kinds of stainless steel, so for many reasons I doubt very much that they are the same exact formulation.Yes, I know it's SS.
But how is the Cybertruck made of SS for SpaceX?
I know a lot of people always say Elon is sandbagging. But I don't buy it. I think his Asperger's doesn't allow him to play sandbagging games.
It seems to me that Elon tends to say exactly what he thinks. Sometimes that's good. Sometimes it's a problem. But that's who he is.
Interestingly, though, at least the max payload numbers are dropping for 2024:
Why the New Ford F-150 Has a Lower Max Payload Than the Old One
We don't often see a new truck that hauls less than its predecessor. But due to some tweaks to the order sheet, that's what happened with the 2024 Ford F-150.www.roadandtrack.com
From the article:
"The 2023 F-150 offered up to 3315 lbs of hauling capacity. For 2024, that number falls to 2455 lbs."
"An 860-lb drop sounds cataclysmic. But for the trucks people actually order, it's not going to make much of a difference. Because while that 3315-lb number provided Ford with plenty of bragging rights, actual buyers almost never optioned a truck to have that kind of hauling capacity. It required you to get a 5.0-liter V-8 single-cab 4x2 truck with an eight-foot bed, the Max Trailer Tow package, and the Heavy-Duty Payload package. That last package is what gave it the 800-lb payload advantage over the rest of the lineup, but Ford axed it to limit configurations."
I'm not giving my opinion one way or another...I'm not a truck guy, and certainly don't have big payload or towing needs. I'm just presenting these interesting facts, with the interesting note that in 2024 the Cybertruck will have a (slightly) higher payload capacity than any new F-150.
Doesn't the Cybertruck fall into the 3/4 ton truck classification anyhow?
Yeah, the F-150 configurations with 14k lbs towing and 3.3k lbs payload are higher-end trims that are bigger and heavier. The more common F-150 trims tend to tow and haul less than CT. The "F-150" is a family of trucks with a broad range of capabilities, sizes, and features. That's one reason why comparing CT to the F-150 Lightning is more informative.Totally fair-- and it's quite possible Tesla knew how rarely folks actually bought higher payload 1/2 ton trucks when making the design choices to offer 2500 instead of the originally announced 3500.... that said it looks like the big 3 (GM, Ford, RAM) are continuing to all offer trims of 1/2 tons with 1.5-3k more towing capacity than the highest spec CT.
On behalf of my country I apologizeLooks like a date was set in Denmark for 3F Union to also block Tesla shipments. (I'm assuming they mean Trains). They can still drive them in on car carriers right? Would Norway also be impacted then?
Edit: Adding Map.
On Tuesday, 3F, Denmark's largest union, said that its transport workers will launch a strike in solidarity with Tesla workers in Sweden if the company does not reach a collective wage agreement with them by December 18. Danish port workers have vowed to neither unload nor load Tesla vehicles and drivers will not receive and transport Tesla cars going through Denmark.
hey Tesla sell BTC and invest on behalf of all investors ...
Invest in what?hey Tesla sell BTC and invest on behalf of all investors ...
Rather than "bulletproof", maybe the CT pitch should be "more bulletproof than any other production vehicle"?Yes that's right. Pretty much exactly what Lars said here:
Top Gear | Interview w. Lars Moravi + Franz von Holtzhausen | Bulletproofing
"We can stop pretty much any handgun, and you know anything that is subsonic. But you know, if you get armored-piercing rounds, or if you have a bullet that's going faster than the speed of sound, that energy is going to hit it you know with velocity squared, and in that tiny area it's gonna go through. So yeah you can definately empty a whole clip from a tommy gun, 9 mm subsonic, but I wouldn't go around uh you know claiming that its fully bullet uh proof."
Cheers!
Not doing brake by wire might have a lot to do with the CT being on 48V. Brembo has been investing and working on this for years, but certainly with standard 12V vehicles in mind. Maybe a fairly easy revision to the CT once Brembo certifies a 48V design?It looks like a normal system with a dual circuit master cylinder with some form of booster feeding a 4 corner ABS unit.
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Rather than "bulletproof", maybe the CT pitch should be "more bulletproof than any other production vehicle"?
Brembo's web site says it supports 48V already.Not doing brake by wire might have a lot to do with the CT being on 48V. Brembo has been investing and working on this for years, but certainly with standard 12V vehicles in mind. Maybe a fairly easy revision to the CT once Brembo certifies a 48V design?