Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[Usain]

Given the catastrophic impact of carbon emissions from flying, and no immediate prospect of pollution-free flights any time soon, as climate change inevitably gets worse, I suspect many governments will go further in financially encouraging people not to fly, especially if it becomes common for people to have FSD.

Unfortunately, I don't think that will happen. The airline business is really tough. And robust air service is seen as vital in any developed country. I'm afraid that governments will actually do the opposite and prop up those businesses if needed.

 

[Thumper]

Electric planes will soon be the most economical equipment choices for short haul routes like the hourly shuttle between Portland, OR and Seattle.

 

[Usain]

I dont think you can extrapolate from the US as to how global politics will respond to climate change. I'm in the UK, which is a climate-change denying hellscape compared to much of Europe, and we are tons better than the US.
Take a look at China's rollout of high speed rail, and its amazing progress on solar and wind. Actually wind energy in the UK is often the largest source of electricity here.
The USA is, sadly, an outlier for being determined to ignore climate change and hope it goes away...
But to get back to investment stuff, the US is not the majority of the world. Even if it continues to turn a blind eye to short haul flights, other countries will not, especially Europe and China. FSD is definitely going to have an impact there. France has already enacted a law that outlaws short haul flights were less damaging options exist. Others are bound to follow.

There are also people who, regardless of govt policy, will avoid flying. If I was to go to Scotland again, I'd never fly. I'd get a sleeper train, or preferably, let my Tesla do the drive.

I've heard it said, "In the US, people are afraid of the government. In Europe, the government is afraid of the people."

Movements like eXtinction Rebellion and Fridays For Future have found some success in Europe. In the US, not so much.

I think Europe is leading the world in climate action. China is doing some things right. US politics is too divided to get much done. The IRA was a legislative miracle, but it's a nasty compromise and not the kind of legislation we really needed.

Overall, no large nation is doing what really needs to be done. The hope of meeting the goals of the Paris agreement is almost down to zero.

 

[2daMoon]

Given the catastrophic impact of carbon emissions from flying, and no immediate prospect of pollution-free flights any time soon, as climate change inevitably gets worse, I suspect many governments will go further in financially encouraging people not to fly, especially if it becomes common for people to have FSD.

Fortunately, short-haul regional flights will be the first to go electric. Here's one company in the flight testing phase of development with 250 NM range. If they can adopt Tesla's attitude toward manufacturing efficiency this project might really ... take off.

Intercontinental flights are the ones that will call for lighter, energy-dense batteries, as well as lightweight, efficient motors to make those distances and loads feasible.

 

[M|S|M MYP]

Electric planes will soon be the most economical equipment choices for short haul routes like the hourly shuttle between Portland, OR and Seattle.

Hopefully it will not be Boeing making them

 

[FastEddieB]

Electric planes will soon be the most economical equipment choices for short haul routes like the hourly shuttle between Portland, OR and Seattle.

Define soon.

 

[2daMoon]

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The USA is, sadly, an outlier for being determined to ignore climate change and hope it goes away...

Two words,...

Petro
Dollar​

 

[2daMoon]

Define soon.

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[MartinAustin]

Hadn't seen this posted yet- S/X dropping support for Steam in new deliveries (likely downgrade of the MCU to match the cheaper part used in 3/Y that never had steam support)

Tesla drops Steam gaming support inside its vehicles

Tesla is telling new Model S and Model X buyers that they won’t have access to Steam gaming inside their...

electrek.co

A little surprising ahead of the RT unveil as some folks were presenting in-car high end gaming as a pro-RT feature so you'd think they'd look to expand, not contract, on such offerings.

It could also be that they looked at how many people use the Steam functionality, and, it is actually not very many at all. (guessing)

 

[GhostSkater]

OTA for the win

 

[EVMeister]

New video with Franz and Lars ("Designing the New Model 3 Performance"):

 

[Stretch2727]

Pretty good endorsement of FSD by Boris Johnson.

BORIS JOHNSON:Hair-raising Tesla ride shows driverless cars are future

You need a fair bit of nerve to get in any kind of car on the streets of Los Angeles, writes Boris Johnson.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[nativewolf]

Pretty good endorsement of FSD by Boris Johnson.

BORIS JOHNSON:Hair-raising Tesla ride shows driverless cars are future

You need a fair bit of nerve to get in any kind of car on the streets of Los Angeles, writes Boris Johnson.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There is literally no such thing IMO. If that walking scumbag say sit, you must run.

 

[heltok]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1791928916564922473

 

[nativewolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1791928916564922473

It was so bad that revenues fell so much and hate was so bad he's had to hire an build out teams full of the function he fired...so he lost major customers and his staff is almost back to pre EM days. BRILLIANT. That's why banks value the debt at 25 cents on the dollar.

 

[nativewolf]

Incidentally I suspect this is partly why he needs shares...so he can't get called on twitter debt if Tesla tanks this fall. I bet he needs to sell shares in July/August/Sept so he can close out debt.

 

[DarkandStormy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1791928916564922473

Musk is the antithesis of "real gangstas don't flex."

 

[FastEddieB]

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Hope springs eternal, and I hope we see electric commercial aircraft “soon”.

But I have my doubts.

 

[MC3OZ]

Define soon.

There a battery types that support electric flight that may be in some working (flying) porotypes:-

• Lyten (probably not in prototypes)
• CATL Condensed battery - claimed to be in a 1-ton prototype,

I would guess around 2035-2040, given that approval to fly might take a while.

 

[SPadival]

Unusual guest for this channel. Usually, they are focused on Lithium mining companies.