No, just more efficient packaging.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
That's a good question. Perhaps you could ask the OP directly if you're on Twitter (I am not). I provided a link to the original tweet in my post.
Cheers!
Carl Raymond
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Carl Raymond
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Shipping containers typically stack. Go four high and use one acre. Surround with trees.
I was actually considering the possibility of these getting stacked on top of each other. I don’t think it will work because of two major reasons: weight, and heat dissipation surface(s). The containers would become over-engineered, and it makes no sense when one considers that the Megapacks will usually be deployed next to either a solar or wind farm, where space is not the main constraint.
Just checked some of the images included on the product page: the containers have these series of circular openings all across their top covers, which look an awful lot like fan openings. Probably not meant to be covered.
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Only on Wi-Fi, and only parked (At least until true driverless FSD is legal, at which point they'll probably offer streaming data LTE tier or just let you hotspot from your phone). No to low cost depending on certain things (i.e., likely they will roll out WiFi to superchargers, but do they charge extra to cover installation / ongoing service costs, pad the charging costs to cover it so that it's "free", or just eat it entirely? - and of course if you're on Wifi that isn't Tesla's, it is "zero" cost to them other than developing - or rather enabling - the software support to do video playack)
And since the plan is to just enable the currently disabled video playback function in the browser, Tesla wouldn't bet getting any ad revenue, since it would just be operating like any other computer web browser. Any ad revenue would go to whatever site you're streaming from because it would be their site displaying the ads. They're not planning Netflix and Youtube apps that they can then somehow extort Netflix and Youtube a percentage of streaming revenue to make money from. Just enabling web video, and letting sites that use it work. You'll just log into your own account as you would on any computer.
Long term, there should be essentially "zero" revenue (other than potentially making the car more desirable and thus selling more cars, if they were demand limited) or costs (I expect Supercharger Wi-Fi will either cost or extra or they just increase the cost of energy by a fraction and long term be a wash) for this feature.
Anyone know how quickly Tesla could have fixed Puerto Rico's blackout during/post Hurricane Maria if they this product, at scale, then?
Definitely can't stack in operation, they clearly have cooling openings in the top.
However it does look like you can stack them for transport. They have the standard container mounting/coupling/etc holes in bottom and top corners. So you probably can treat them entirely as standard shipping containers for transport with zero special handling requirements.
Assuming a worst case scenario of zero mass optimization from building one big thing versus a bunch of smaller ones (despite 60% energy density improvement), and taking ~14 Power Packs and ~2.5 Power Pack inverters and their masses, you come out to around 57,000 lbs. 20' container max gross weight is ~66,000 lbs, so plenty of room. The actual thing could weigh far less due to redundant structures etc that would be eliminated by combining all these into one physical unit - though on the other hand it may need additional structure for supporting / distributing the mass for handling it as a container (not just stacking but standard lifting methods etc) so could go either way, but regardless there's ~9000 lbs of weight capacity left over assuming zero mass savings to start with.
WHATTT! Man I'll be happy if we can get 1k solar roof this year! So V3 is marketable? Sucks that no one asks these things during the call.
Coal has been twice the price of natural gas and more expensive than solar for ~3 years.
Fred has a piece today on using Tesla Semi as a platform for a motor home. (I won’t include the link, but you know how to find it if you want).
He’s envisioning driving during the day and plugging it in at night. But it would be more remarkable the other way, once FSD is available. Imagine being able to tell the vehicle where to go next, and sleep while it takes you there. You could travel the continent on just some electricity, without leaving "home" and without driving.
So, ladies and gentleman, here now the Sancho Master Plan:
1. Buy more TSLA
2. In a few more years when FSD is generally available, retire
3. Tell Neroden "I told you so."
4. Sell home and buy Tesla FSD Motor Home
5. Load it with beer
6. Drive off into the sunset....
He’s envisioning driving during the day and plugging it in at night. But it would be more remarkable the other way, once FSD is available. Imagine being able to tell the vehicle where to go next, and sleep while it takes you there. You could travel the continent on just some electricity, without leaving "home" and without driving.
So, ladies and gentleman, here now the Sancho Master Plan:
1. Buy more TSLA
2. In a few more years when FSD is generally available, retire
3. Tell Neroden "I told you so."
4. Sell home and buy Tesla FSD Motor Home
5. Load it with beer
6. Drive off into the sunset....
EVNow
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Hope this comes through.https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk
Spooling up production line rapidly. Hoping to manufacture ~1000 solar roofs/week by end of this year.
Solar is the most underperforming business line.
So TeslaQ are crying about how this is production number not pre-approved by the sitter. What do you guys think? Another episode of sp rollarcoaster or nothing is going to come out of this?
Oh man. There aren't enough superlatives to describe Gali in that interview. That was enjoyable to watch.
Of course it needs to be connected to an energy source. It's a big rechargeable battery.
Yes indeed. There is a big freeway interchange being built near us with about a dozen construction trailers. On day one, they installed a large bank of solar panels to power the mini construction village. For major isolated construction projects, there seems to be a market for semi-mobile solar + batteries.
Definitely needs an engineered concrete slab over recompacted soil or else the first rainfall and you'll have cave ins. Those megapacks are HEAVY.
Other companies have been doing container packs for a while. I'm surprised it took Tesla this long.
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