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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Even if he is not, shouldn't the jury consider if EM was provoked (submarine up your a**)? And finally there must be damages. How was he harmed and how much income did he lose? His character and employment expectations and harm are highly relevant.
BTW I think a victory for EM would be that he has to pay nominal damages 10k or less
JusRelax
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Obviously take this with a grain of salt, but this has some interesting tidbits...
"Model S Plaid prototypes back in US. Observer says blue unit has a horizontal display similar to the one seen in the Model 3. Both cars are equipped with interiors. Final production Model S Plaid will be going for a Nurburgring lap record around March 2020."
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"Model S Plaid prototypes back in US. Observer says blue unit has a horizontal display similar to the one seen in the Model 3. Both cars are equipped with interiors. Final production Model S Plaid will be going for a Nurburgring lap record around March 2020."
jhm
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This is a really good example of how brand marketers think. It is ironic that Musk dismisses brand marketing when in fact he is exceptional at it and has launched many compelling brands.
From my days in marketing, I was exposed to this idea that a brand is a promise. The thing that makes a brand strong is consistent delivery of that promise.
So we expect Tesla to push technological and cultural limits to bring forward innovative and compelling products. This is how I see Tesla's brand promise. "Delivering the future--today" is a catchy way to express that promise. But the thing that makes Tesla a great brand is not that the tell us they deliver the future, but that they actually do deliver amazing products way ahead of the rest of the industry.
If they actually stopped bringing bold, forward looking products to the market, the brand would suffer. Indeed I think this is why Tesla need to do more than morph the Models S, X, 3 and Y into something resembling a pickup truck. If the Tesla Pickup just looked like the rest of their product line up, we'd start to get the idea the Tesla's brand is about a certain kind of homogeneous style. It's nice, but not so daring at this point. Cybertruck broke down that whole line of expectation. Tesla exists to do more than morph the Model S. It's here to bring us things that are unexpected, bold, and deeply disruptive. So in it's own way, the Cybertruck is fulfilling the Tesla brand promise. It is strengthening the brand in ways that the Model Y cannot.
RFernatt
Solar/EV Owner/Enthusiast
Anyone remember the plan to destroy the Borg in the ST:TNG episode, I Borg? The Federation developed a paradoxical geometric form to be shown to a Borg and then passed among the collective until they couldn't do anything else but process the geometric image and they shutdown because they couldn't do anything else.
I think Elon has discovered this geometric form in the shape of the Cybertruck. Except we process it until we can't do anything else but make a reservation.
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“It may not survive a nuke, so why bother?”
The CT is for her, she said no CT for me because We had S3X already.
Doug Demuro did a video review of the Cybertruck where he claimed it was far too expensive for what you get.
Finally someone who knows pickups does a detailed takedown of Doug. Very informative on exactly why Cybertruck is such a great value!
Finally someone who knows pickups does a detailed takedown of Doug. Very informative on exactly why Cybertruck is such a great value!
StealthP3D
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For sure, there is a lot more to the structure of the Cybertruck than just the skin. It will be like a regular uni-body vehicle except it will take full advantage of the strong body panels instead of just relying on them minimally to add a bit of rigidity to a flexy chassis. This is breaking a lot of new ground but I think Musk and company are up to it as long as they start soon enough and take it seriously.
As to how this will affect cost/margins, I think that's a multi-faceted benefit. The SS material will cost more but it will reduce the number of chassis components and body panels and the time it takes to assemble/align them, reducing the amount of welding and eliminating the paint shop. If the entire structure is SS including the structure behind the exterior panels and the bottom frame (and it's far from clear that it will be) then it also eliminates the anti-corrosion primer bath that the chassis is dunked in. I believe drying ovens/radiant heat panels are normally required following the anti-corrosion dunking so it's possible the total amount of energy and space needed to produce a car is greatly reduced. Energy adds to the cost of each car just like additional parts do. It's all about being able to build cars in a smaller space with less capital investment and cranking out cars at a faster pace with less labor and energy expended. Musk is not trying to incrementally improve traditional car-making, he's reinventing the entire process without compromising the quality and longevity of the product. In fact, increasing those qualities. Making it MORE corrosion-resistant, less susceptible to damage and more rigid for better handling when pushed hard and all at a lower overall cost.
Krugerrand
Meow
It’s going to be even more horrible for Ford when Elon sets up another tug o war that makes the F150 look like even weaker sauce.
Horizontal makes sense for watching movies.
The vertical displays came from pre-movie times.
Overcome by CT FOMO!
I will NOT be left out of the big TMC CT party to be held deep in the desert, at the bottom of the Grand Canyon or astride the Pacific Crest Trail! 
Bought five more shares on the Friday dip and celebrated today by reserving a CT. I have no idea where I'll be in 2022, but it strikes me that even the option to buy a tri-motor CT with massive range and functional FSD could be immensely valuable. I might even be able to arbitrage it for ten more shares of TSLA in 2022.
Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow American TMCers and simply thanks to the rest of our amazing global community. There is much to be thankful for and there is so much more to come for which we will be
grateful!
Bought five more shares on the Friday dip and celebrated today by reserving a CT. I have no idea where I'll be in 2022, but it strikes me that even the option to buy a tri-motor CT with massive range and functional FSD could be immensely valuable. I might even be able to arbitrage it for ten more shares of TSLA in 2022.
Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow American TMCers and simply thanks to the rest of our amazing global community. There is much to be thankful for and there is so much more to come for which we will be
grateful!
CT has 17 inch horizontal display. Obviously every tesla will have them from now on (except Y still stuck with 15 I guess).
I have no idea who Doug Demuro is. I presume he’s brain damaged in some manner?
sundaymorning
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sundaymorning
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Ford will now need to pay CNBC thugs triple the money to get back on their good graces. That means Tripling their current marketing budget.
sundaymorning
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I loaded up more today. Not sure if it’ll go up or down short term but the timing is right for me. There’s way too much good news on the horizon. Q4 will be another record smashing quarter, hopefully with even better efficiencies than Q3, which seems very plausible at this point.
StealthP3D
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I don't know where this idea that the Cybertruck is practically indestructible came from. If one hits a moose, elk or large deer at 65-75 mph with a Cybertruck, I'm pretty sure it will be totaled. But, yeah, the general toughness in the face of door dings, hail, shopping carts and the like is a *huge* benefit. I think a steel key would probably still be capable of putting a nice scratch in the door but you could probably just buff it out with some rubbing compound.
This is important from an investment perspective because it will make the truck that much more desirable (high demand).
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