There ain't sky on the moon fool@Chickenlittle Shut up! The sky is falling... Oh...I guess not on the Moon!
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Stretch2727
Engineer and Car Nut
Almost $20B in annual net profit, although declining. This is almost as much as Tesla's total sales!
Toyota Net Income 2006-2019 | TM
$280B in sales. This is 10x Tesla. Actually amazing for Tesla as Toyota sells approx. 30x more cars.
Given they have not taken EV's seriously I think they are in hard fall.
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StealthP3D
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You're missing something. Elon has a Twitter account.
That said, this is the "quiet period" before earnings so that, coupled with his more disciplined Twitter approach, means that market moving tweets are unlikely to happen.
However, there are a lot of things internal to the market and internal to TSLA investors that can cause substantial price movements without hard news of any kind. At the risk of repeating myself, shares of high growth companies cannot be adequately valued using simple formulas for a number of reasons. Thus their valuations are highly subject to human factors that we can broadly call "investor sentiment". For example, a growing realization that Tesla really is the "next big thing" can cause investors to pile on in advance of earnings. And, lacking big news and/or big macro events, that is exactly what I think we will see over the next three weeks before the earnings are released.
IMO, the quieter the better.
Well, there’s one that’s at least closer to *some* moons than it is to CA.
RobStark
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Average interest rates for new auto loans hit 22-month low in December as car prices soar
The annual percentage rate for newly financed cars averaged 5.4 percent in December, a slight drop compared to 5.5 percent in November. However, last month was noticeably less than last December, where the APR for auto loans stood at 5.9 percent, according to Edmunds.
While interest rates hit a 22-month low in December, the cost of new vehicle prices are hitting near-record highs, with the average transaction price for a new car expected to climb to $38,377 in December, up over $1,000 compared to last year when new car prices averaged $37,260 and nearly $5,000 more than to five years ago, when the average price for a new car was $33,773, according to Edmunds industry insight report.
The annual percentage rate for newly financed cars averaged 5.4 percent in December, a slight drop compared to 5.5 percent in November. However, last month was noticeably less than last December, where the APR for auto loans stood at 5.9 percent, according to Edmunds.
While interest rates hit a 22-month low in December, the cost of new vehicle prices are hitting near-record highs, with the average transaction price for a new car expected to climb to $38,377 in December, up over $1,000 compared to last year when new car prices averaged $37,260 and nearly $5,000 more than to five years ago, when the average price for a new car was $33,773, according to Edmunds industry insight report.
It depends what you mean by "news". The SP making a new ATH almost every day is pretty good news to me
Interestingly, today ARK Invest did not trim any of its TSLA, which is the top holding in three of its ETFs. When it hits new highs, they usually sell some of it to raise funds to purchase more shares of laggards. Apparently Cathie Wood feels especially confident and wants to let it run.
RobStark
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I’m silencing the cabin noise discussion before it gets any more out of hand. Take it to the Model 3 thread.
My suggestion for a New Year’s resolution: only discuss investor related subjects.
My suggestion for a New Year’s resolution: only discuss investor related subjects.
Perforated glass means less glass needed per car, means lower costs, means increased margins. Therefore, on topic. QED
Wow, so that's what happens after a P/D report when there is not an "engineered" miss?
Actually seemed a bit surreal when "Mr. Toothbrush" was claiming that Tesla would meet deliveries.
Interested in what mischief shorty has planned for the new year? No way in the world that big oil and the gang give up their profits.
Actually seemed a bit surreal when "Mr. Toothbrush" was claiming that Tesla would meet deliveries.
Planned on accumulating more during the post P/D release "dip" that obviously didn't happen. First World problems
Interested in what mischief shorty has planned for the new year? No way in the world that big oil and the gang give up their profits.
tschmidty
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Off-topic, but guys we have won. We even have Dale Earnhart fans now.
Yep, it's a Model 3 with THE Number 3 wrap.
Yep, it's a Model 3 with THE Number 3 wrap.
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Yes, I have been waiting for a dip. Wondering if I made a mistake by lagging on more investment.
EVNow
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Their problem is execution. They simply don't know how to make enough cars to sell.
Well, we really went a long time before we blew that one, didn't we?
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