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We are talking over the years.It's a bit of a stretch to even say that he missed the timelines. We are still in the ball park.
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We are talking over the years.It's a bit of a stretch to even say that he missed the timelines. We are still in the ball park.
Yes. It was actually on Christmas Eve and was neutralised during the trading day. He's a true clown. Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the 2019-2020 Investors' Roundtable
The generator requires you to pay constantly for fuel, forever, to generate electricity - while the Tesla system requires zero extra cost to generate electricity (and usually lets you sell excess generation to the gird).
Also, how many people require 2 powerwalls? Is that a common need?
Well, when your TSLA reaches 2.5M, you sell and buy again, and then you’re tax exempt .
Adam Jonas is stupid, dishonest, or both. Look at the sales unit forecast for his financial model. It's laughable. He had Tesla making and selling 1.7 million cars in 2030 and just raised it to 2 million cars in this new report. We already know he's going to be crazy wrong by huge margin.So Adam Jonas' says his price target of $360 is based on the auto business worth $332 and the autonomy business worth $28.
He values:
Energy business: $0
Solar business: $0
Tesla brand: $0
In-vehicle entertainment and services: $0
Licensing battery technology: $0
Licensing autonomous technology: $0
Tesla Insurance: $0
New future businesses: $0
Buying back stock will reduce the market cap.
I don’t think there are a lot of European countries that don’t allow per kWh pricing. So the prices in that drop down would apply for most sites. It certainly corresponds to what I have seen on my BE supercharging bills.Huh? That link doesn't provide individual site prices, just an average per country per type of fee... In fact it tells you to look in your car for details:
Care to explain why you disagreed with this, "JustSaying"? Are you an AJ fan? Are you AJ himself? Because aside from calling him a clown (my opinion, shared by many) the post was factually correct.
Maybe @JustSaying is an actual clown? You are giving clowns a bad name.Care to explain why you disagreed with this, "JustSaying"? Are you an AJ fan? Are you AJ himself? Because aside from calling him a clown (my opinion, shared by many) the post was factually correct.
They are betting on a full market collapse, more trouble with China. Basically anything that is out of the control of the companies themselves.I noticed an irony of the short market for Tesla. The more Tesla goes down, the more emboldened and bellicose the shorts become. The more Tesla goes up, the more enticing it becomes for new shorts to enter the market. Perhaps when Tesla is on some steady growth and stock price trend (right before end of times), the temptation to short will fade away.
from CNBC—>nothing breeds contempt like success!
Hedge funds are betting big Apple and Tesla will collapse
Apple and Tesla may be market darlings, but hedge funds are betting big they'll collapse
You're asking yourself why you disagree??
I don’t think there are a lot of European countries that don’t allow per kWh pricing. So the prices in that drop down would apply for most sites. It certainly corresponds to what I have seen on my BE supercharging bills.
Adam Jonas is stupid, dishonest, or both. Look at the sales unit forecast for his financial model. It's laughable. He had Tesla making and selling 1.7 million cars in 2030 and just raised it to 2 million cars in this new report. We already know he's going to be crazy wrong by huge margin.
I read some of his forecasts he had made I think in 2016 or so about how many cars Tesla would sell in 2022 or something like that. He was so low and wrong then too. I think Tesla hit that mark in 2019! The guy is absolute clown but hey, I guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks at Morgan Stanley with his $10 to $500 possible value for Tesla. They could pay me fraction of his salary and I can tell them the same thing. What a sellout.
Why SC network? It doesn't bring profit, designed to operate at-cost.Supercharger network
Home storage
GRID SCALE STORAGE, WHICH EVERYONE ALWAYS FORGETS
(Sorry, it amazes me how bulls consistently forget this incredibly massive growth market. The world is going to spend 50 trillion dollars over the next 15 years on new generation/grid infrastructure. Tesla is inserting itself solidly into the middle of this.)
I would have thought two was a minimum for an average modest house with gas cars. Need a few more if you drive Teslas.The generator requires you to pay constantly for fuel, forever, to generate electricity - while the Tesla system requires zero extra cost to generate electricity (and usually lets you sell excess generation to the gird).
Also, how many people require 2 powerwalls? Is that a common need?
@Skryll. My case, in California just like you. Two Powerwalls $21,000 from Swell Engery. ITC 30% credit was $6300. SGIP credit $8400, net cost was $6,300. If you are not familiar with SGIB, check it out!Two powerwalls with panel upgrade: $20,000.
vs
Costco gas generator $400 to $700.
Solar panels and inverters the same 10kW for $25k.
I know its not the same convenience, but the cost difference is still immense, even if you go more luxurous with a $4k generac generator system.
Personally I don't want to invest into anything fossil fuel powered going forward despite initial price, and so do not have a generator nor the powerwalls at this point.
Only reason why I didnt do the powerwall upgrade to my 10kW system last year was because the stock price was lagging by a few years, if the recent catchup would have happened 2018/2019 as I had anticipated I would have had more cash to route to tesla for their awesome products.
In theory, buying back stock should not impact the market cap up or down. There will be fewer shares and each share will be for a larger percentage of the company. All else being equal, the share price should theoretically raise by an equivalent amount because all the metrics used to value each share are always relative to the percentage of the whole that each share represents (EPS, etc.). Share price should theoretically rise while the market cap stays the same.
@Skryll. My case, in California just like you. Two Powerwalls $21,000 from Swell Engery. ITC 30% credit was $6300. SGIP credit $8400, net cost was $6,300. If you are not familiar with SGIB, check it out!