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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Well if one sold this morning thinking the SP Will tank more, hope they do not look at the SP now. LONG LIVE TSLA!
dc_h
Active Member
Instant jinx! I post and it goes up 50.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
A very rational hedge fund guy on Bloomberg talking TSLA right now. Refreshing.
Said they got caught short and had to cover, blasting the stock up. Tech is bubbling a bit, but it's in need of a repricing not a burst.
I wish they'd ask him his thoughts on short interest likely being higher right now than Monday morning. No one seems to was to admit I institutional investors are shifting away from fossils and landed on TSLA.
Said they got caught short and had to cover, blasting the stock up. Tech is bubbling a bit, but it's in need of a repricing not a burst.
I wish they'd ask him his thoughts on short interest likely being higher right now than Monday morning. No one seems to was to admit I institutional investors are shifting away from fossils and landed on TSLA.
Well if one sold this morning thinking the SP Will tank more, hope they do not look at the SP now. LONG LIVE TSLA!
With options breaking Tsla right now, who knows what is going on. I am not getting enough sleep knowing my net worth + - hundreds of thousands per day. Can't wait for this nonsense to stop.
Anyone sure Google has not used AlphaGo/AlphaZero to trade stonk yet?
I bought 300 more shares at 701. See you in a few months!
Right on cue - CNBC knocks down the price with its negative spin on everything TSLA.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
... and that's +10% off the morning low.
Thank-you, $hortzes.
Thank-you, $hortzes.
Have some conviction and apply longer horizon. It was bound to be 800 by end of year on fundamentals...
Cupidchild
Member
What has everyone on this forum advised about trying to time the market, and about "selling on the way down"? :Þ
You can still get your shares back. It's your call.
jhm
Well-Known Member
In the short run, the price of Tesla is just a battle of public opinion. Bulls and bears Duke it out on a daily basis to shift public opinion one way or the other. A meme from political theory may be helpful here. Consider the Overton Window.
Overton window - Wikipedia
There are a range of acceptable values for Tesla. These are the prices that we see trading on ordinary days. But then there are days like Monday and Tuesday that go much higher that what was once thought possible. It may be anticlimactic for the price to immediately retreat from $969 to the low $700s, but the real upside here is that the Overton Window for Tesla has shifted, dramatically so. It is now quite thinkable that Tesla could trade in the $900s and be worth over $1000 within the next year. Meanwhile $700 seems like a fairly reasonable value, and waiting for $500 to buy looks improbable. Just a few weeks ago people were wondering if $500 was way too much to pay for the stock. So the shift is quite abrupt.
Longterm the Overton Window must shift upwards as Tesla makes real progress building a valuable franchise. The strategy of TSLAQ was to push the unthinkable view that Tesla was destined for bankruptcy. It's is not that bears need that actually to be true. They were simply trying to shift the Overton Window downward. They were trying to make the unthinkable an acceptable publically held belief. This is logic behind barking such incredulous nonsense. It is brutally obtuse attempt to shift the Overton Window. To counter this, Tesla does well to generate free cash and hold lots of cash. A cash defensive posture holds up the bottom end of the Overton Window.
So right now my view of the Overton for Tesla is $670 to $970. Everyday we stay above $700 will help to solidify the base of this window. Bulls that want to accumulate for longterm gain do well to accumulate in range of $700 to $750. Waiting for the price to drop below $700 risks allowing the base of the Overton Window to deteriorate.
Now in full disclosure, I already have more shares than my wife would like us to hold. So I am personally beyond the accumulation phase of a longterm investment strategy. I might be inclined to accumulate more opoortunistically below $670, but I really do not want to see the price drop that low. My comments in the previous paragraph are for those who still want to build up a large position.
If ARK is right about $7000 to $15,000 in 2024, then quibbling about buying at $670 or $750 really misses the point. Now is the time to accumulate, if you are not already satisfied with your hoard of shares.
Overton window - Wikipedia
There are a range of acceptable values for Tesla. These are the prices that we see trading on ordinary days. But then there are days like Monday and Tuesday that go much higher that what was once thought possible. It may be anticlimactic for the price to immediately retreat from $969 to the low $700s, but the real upside here is that the Overton Window for Tesla has shifted, dramatically so. It is now quite thinkable that Tesla could trade in the $900s and be worth over $1000 within the next year. Meanwhile $700 seems like a fairly reasonable value, and waiting for $500 to buy looks improbable. Just a few weeks ago people were wondering if $500 was way too much to pay for the stock. So the shift is quite abrupt.
Longterm the Overton Window must shift upwards as Tesla makes real progress building a valuable franchise. The strategy of TSLAQ was to push the unthinkable view that Tesla was destined for bankruptcy. It's is not that bears need that actually to be true. They were simply trying to shift the Overton Window downward. They were trying to make the unthinkable an acceptable publically held belief. This is logic behind barking such incredulous nonsense. It is brutally obtuse attempt to shift the Overton Window. To counter this, Tesla does well to generate free cash and hold lots of cash. A cash defensive posture holds up the bottom end of the Overton Window.
So right now my view of the Overton for Tesla is $670 to $970. Everyday we stay above $700 will help to solidify the base of this window. Bulls that want to accumulate for longterm gain do well to accumulate in range of $700 to $750. Waiting for the price to drop below $700 risks allowing the base of the Overton Window to deteriorate.
Now in full disclosure, I already have more shares than my wife would like us to hold. So I am personally beyond the accumulation phase of a longterm investment strategy. I might be inclined to accumulate more opoortunistically below $670, but I really do not want to see the price drop that low. My comments in the previous paragraph are for those who still want to build up a large position.
If ARK is right about $7000 to $15,000 in 2024, then quibbling about buying at $670 or $750 really misses the point. Now is the time to accumulate, if you are not already satisfied with your hoard of shares.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Everyone? Are you saying someone who sold at $950 wasn't able to time the market?What has everyone on this forum advised about trying to time the market, and about "selling on the way down"? :Þ
You can still get your shares back. It's your call.
We need to relax on this "buy now, buy tomorrow, buy @ $1200" nonsense. We get it, you like Tesla.
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