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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

Rb48888

Here’s your sign.
Jul 14, 2018
119
1,492
Tennessee
Big Thanks to @The Accountant. Their Jan 2020 post has helped me considerably, and repeatedly.

Given current events, I thought it was worth floating back to the top, in case it can be helpful for others too.


The Art of (not) Selling
I stumbled upon a very good blog post by Akre Capital (an asset management firm).
The post titled "The Art of (Not) Selling"

The Art of (Not) Selling - Akre Capital Management


For those of you familiar with @StealthP3D 's approach to investing, this article could have easily been written by him.
It is a short read and I highly recommend it.
Some key lines from the article:
  • The mistake, in virtually every instance, has been selling too soon.
  • our investment philosophy involves concentrating our capital in a small number of....growing and competitively advantaged businesses
  • This determination to hold on is a critically important...... At its core, it relates to the power of compounding. We believe these two ideas — (not) selling and compounding — are inextricably linked. Getting the first wrong makes the second impossible.
  • when selling because of valuation, it is often with the idea that there will be an opportunity down the road to buy back in at lower prices. In our experience, it seldom works out this way.
 

TheTalkingMule

Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Oct 20, 2012
6,454
22,268
Philadelphia, PA
...I suspect that someday in the not too distant future we will see "Model 2's" rolling out of Berlin and Shanghai.
That naming convention seems very unlikely to me. Including past models, I think we'll see a progression more like:

Model S
Model 3
Model X
Model Y
Model B - lower cost sedan
Model I - sporty, smaller, cheaper hatchback
Model T - midsize pickup
Model C - camper in the mould of a VW
Model H - hydrofoil speedboat
 

StealthP3D

Well-Known Member
Dec 12, 2018
8,666
63,787
Maple Falls, WA

Let me get this straight. The dieselgate settlement required VW to spend millions (billions?) on green technologies like the Electrify America charging infrastructure. Then they figured out that every dollar they spent on Powerpacks was one more dollar's worth of batteries that Tesla would not be putting into cars to compete with VW?

I mean, they have to spend the money on something so why not use it to siphon more batteries away from Tesla's vehicle production?
 

Paul_SF

Supporting Member
Feb 12, 2020
305
3,038
US
That naming convention seems very unlikely to me. Including past models, I think we'll see a progression more like:

Model S
Model 3
Model X
Model Y
Model B - lower cost sedan
Model I - sporty, smaller, cheaper hatchback
Model T - midsize pickup
Model C - camper in the mould of a VW
Model H - hydrofoil speedboat

you need an “A” in there ;)
 

Krugerrand

Is Cat
Jul 13, 2012
10,744
51,475
Tesla friendly place
I would sail by in a modest boat, saluting you ! :)
From a safe and respectful distance, off course, taking into account your stated desire for privacy and (and also various assumed primarily defensive capabilities)
(Assuming off course the location was known to me which might be ... a tad more optimistic than my price/sell target)

I don’t care what anyone else says, you’re no dummy.
 

clmason

Member
Sep 29, 2011
600
1,008
San Diego
I tossed and turned last night, not because I have options contracts that are volatile but because buy and hold has worked so well my account is majorly overweight in TSLA.

I’m considering selling a small amount of shares, maybe 5%, just so I can sleep better. Will decide before end of trading. Feel free to chime in with suggestions.
 

BlackS

Supporting Member
Feb 20, 2018
2,097
17,024
USA
I tossed and turned last night, not because I have options contracts that are volatile but because buy and hold has worked so well my account is majorly overweight in TSLA.

I’m considering selling a small amount of shares, maybe 5%, just so I can sleep better. Will decide before end of trading. Feel free to chime in with suggestions.

Good sleep at night > 5% of $TSLA shares

Unless $TSLA keeps going up every day :) j/k....i am sure a lot of TMC are in the same dilemma as you. Would that 5% really make a huge difference?
 

StealthP3D

Well-Known Member
Dec 12, 2018
8,666
63,787
Maple Falls, WA
I tossed and turned last night, not because I have options contracts that are volatile but because buy and hold has worked so well my account is majorly overweight in TSLA.

I’m considering selling a small amount of shares, maybe 5%, just so I can sleep better. Will decide before end of trading. Feel free to chime in with suggestions.

I'm planning on doing the same thing. Not to sleep better but, yeah, I'm so majorly over-weight in TSLA it's not even funny anymore. And I still will be after I sell off 10-15%. I've figured if TSLA doubles in the next year I'll have more than I could ever hope to spend anyway and, if it doesn't, it won't matter either.

But I'm not very good at pulling the trigger (waiting for better price to sell at). This reluctance to pull the trigger has served me incredibly well over the last 25 years! :)
 

ninpb

Member
Jun 19, 2018
570
2,269
90720
Let me get this straight. The dieselgate settlement required VW to spend millions (billions?) on green technologies like the Electrify America charging infrastructure. Then they figured out that every dollar they spent on Powerpacks was one more dollar's worth of batteries that Tesla would not be putting into cars to compete with VW?

I mean, they have to spend the money on something so why not use it to siphon more batteries away from Tesla's vehicle production?

Evil..someone tell them the more they buy the less Teslas get out in the street.
 

dww12

Supporting Member
Nov 10, 2018
768
4,753
San Antonio
I tossed and turned last night, not because I have options contracts that are volatile but because buy and hold has worked so well my account is majorly overweight in TSLA.

I’m considering selling a small amount of shares, maybe 5%, just so I can sleep better. Will decide before end of trading. Feel free to chime in with suggestions.
I like the idea of selling 2022 4000 covered calls. The premium probably covers your initial investment if TSLA went to zero and you keep your shares if it does not make 4000 and if it makes 4000 you got a 2x return in two years. Plus it forces you into long term gains. I have not done this yet but considering as we get closer to battery day and S&P. Hopefully they open up some higher priced calls by then because we’ll be at 3000 and need 6000 options.
 

vikings123

Active Member
May 27, 2019
1,101
8,307
MN
Ha ha, thanks for letting me know. I hope I didn't get anyone in trouble.

lol so many people lurking in this thread. I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere on twitter a screenshot of your original post with the picture. You are famous :). We are not only making the news but also the articles. Even the nano capacitor rumors with ampere started here I think. Amazing.
 

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