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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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FYI, Model 3 EU homologation should appear as new rows in the following datasets:
https://opendata.rdw.nl/Typegoedkeuring/Tesla-Type-approval/qfyi-t5q9
https://opendata.rdw.nl/Typegoedkeuring/Tesla-commercial-designation/22cp-rz4r
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https://opendata.rdw.nl/Typegoedkeuring/Tesla-Type-approval/qfyi-t5q9
https://opendata.rdw.nl/Typegoedkeuring/Tesla-commercial-designation/22cp-rz4r
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This is a hit-piece. Road-tripping with a Tesla is super-easy in Europe, I know, I do it with my family.
The article doesn't state which battery the car has and the primary complaint about the first Supercharge is that it's next to a Burger King and not a fancy hotel. She then says it takes 80 minutes to charge enough to destination, which I find a bit much, I rarely charge for more than 40 minutes and I have a XP100D, which eats electrons more than the rest, especially with my heavy right foot and fast speeds in Germany.
The primary issue she has is trying to charge on the non-Tesla networks. This is indeed a disaster, but she spends no effort in pointing-out that as a Tesla owner, you'd rarely use these facilities, only in a pinch.
Very poor "reporting" indeed.
My guess is that battery costs have taken a step-change lower and we'll see price reductions on the S & X. The 75D is discontinued because it would eat into Model 3 territory.
WAG, of course.
Just four SP100D's here in Belgium, no X, and five CPO MS. So much for cars stacking up!
I could also imagine that they're clearing out a bit to make space for the influx of M3's
I'm surprised, that you can see it that way.
If one blogger can cause that, I don't think that it is the bloggers fault..If company has its act together, it would not make big decissions based on some bloggers opinion.
What are chances of Musk hooking up with Mackenzie Musk (formally known as Mackenzie Bezos).
65 Bil could double Tesla’s capitalization and give SpaceX an even bigger lead over Blue Origin.
65 Bil could double Tesla’s capitalization and give SpaceX an even bigger lead over Blue Origin.
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Furthermore, note the between Paris and Mannheim, there is excellent Supercharger support, the drive between each is 145-160km - if I were driving that route, I'd stop at each one for roughly 15 minutes. Stretch my legs, have a pee, relax, love it!
RobStark
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On the same site i found that eight Model 3-s are registered in Netherlands
https://opendata.rdw.nl/Voertuigen/Alle-Tesla-Model-3-in-NL/y4vt-i24s
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Here's the Google translated anonymous comment:
作者：匿名用户
链接：特斯拉在上海合资建厂，会带来哪些影响？ - 知乎
来源：知乎
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Interests, anonymity, may be wrong.
Tesla entered China and adopted the same method as in the United States. He signed a letter of intent and put out smoke bombs everywhere, so that the governments of Guangdong and Shanghai would provide preferential policies to attract them to the bottom of the line in order to seize resources and information is not equal. investment.
Well, in the end, Tesla Fang went to the door and told him that he chose Shanghai. At that moment, the mood was really five flavors.
As a party to the project battalion team responsible for the financing plan, the government's plan for Tesla is almost the best I have ever seen. Tesla and the government background company joint venture, technology shares and 100% management and control, water The electricity is separately priced, the personal and company tax is greatly reduced. The government provides the dormitory and surrounding facilities. The bank issues a 20 billion commitment letter. During the negotiations, Tesla asked the Chinese bank to provide low-interest loans, pure credit, no guarantee mortgage, and long term. And need to have a longer exemption period, etc...
In order to compete for it, the entire local government and related departments have spent countless energies. It took two years to watch it, and finally it was proposed to be sole proprietorship, huh, huh... What do you think of Honda Toyota?
I don't know what will happen after it enters the Chinese market. I only hope that our country will be prosperous and stable. More and more companies can stand at the top of the industry. When they invest overseas, they can also attract investment like Tesla. The party has fun to turn around.
链接：特斯拉在上海合资建厂，会带来哪些影响？ - 知乎
来源：知乎
著作权归作者所有。商业转载请联系作者获得授权，非商业转载请注明出处。
Interests, anonymity, may be wrong.
Tesla entered China and adopted the same method as in the United States. He signed a letter of intent and put out smoke bombs everywhere, so that the governments of Guangdong and Shanghai would provide preferential policies to attract them to the bottom of the line in order to seize resources and information is not equal. investment.
Well, in the end, Tesla Fang went to the door and told him that he chose Shanghai. At that moment, the mood was really five flavors.
As a party to the project battalion team responsible for the financing plan, the government's plan for Tesla is almost the best I have ever seen. Tesla and the government background company joint venture, technology shares and 100% management and control, water The electricity is separately priced, the personal and company tax is greatly reduced. The government provides the dormitory and surrounding facilities. The bank issues a 20 billion commitment letter. During the negotiations, Tesla asked the Chinese bank to provide low-interest loans, pure credit, no guarantee mortgage, and long term. And need to have a longer exemption period, etc...
In order to compete for it, the entire local government and related departments have spent countless energies. It took two years to watch it, and finally it was proposed to be sole proprietorship, huh, huh... What do you think of Honda Toyota?
I don't know what will happen after it enters the Chinese market. I only hope that our country will be prosperous and stable. More and more companies can stand at the top of the industry. When they invest overseas, they can also attract investment like Tesla. The party has fun to turn around.
Notes:
- The two leading bids were Shanghai and Guangdong.
- Comment written by someone who claims to have been on Guangdong's negotiation team.
- I.e. the conditions described were the losing Guangdong bid. The Shanghai bid must have been even better. (!)
- 20 billion Yuan no collateral loan is 2.94 billion dollars - bank commitment issued in advance (!).
If true: WOW!
I think that was just C'alien's subtle barb at OI's unsubtle pronouncification of that very country's name.
Alternatively, the Model S/X continues to be available with 18650-based 100 kWh packs (which I believe has higher profit margin than the creation of a new variant of a stationary storage pack) - with higher capacity 2170-based packs available as a new option.
I feel it is unlikely that Tesla will only offer Model S/X in a single (100 kWh) version in the near future.
And since Model S already has been offered with 85 kWh and 90 kWh packs, I consider it more likely that they will come out with a higher capacity pack - also to clearly distinguish their top-of-line models from the cheaper Model 3.
So I give it some probability that the 75 kWh versions will be replaced by 100+ kWh ones.
If that indeed happens and these new packs are based on a derived 2170-pack, then one limiting factor in Tesla's annual 100k production of Model S/X is gone.
That is potentially big news.
Shortsville Times:
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has intercourse with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang
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In Germany mineral and water rights are separate from land ownership - and there's this exception to building below and above:
'Der Grundeigentümer kann, so das BGB, "Einwirkungen nicht verbieten, die in solcher Höhe oder Tiefe vorgenommen werden, dass er an der Ausschließung kein Interesse hat".'
The landowner can not, according to the Civil Code, "prohibit actions that are made in such height or depth that he has no interest in the exclusion."
The landowner can not, according to the Civil Code, "prohibit actions that are made in such height or depth that he has no interest in the exclusion."
Boring 20m deep is already difficult to detect from the surface, even with seismographs. Boring 200m deep should be far away from any legitimate interests and objections recognized by the courts.
Since there's no clear legal standard I'm aware of, of course it would be litigated. Germany is 2-3x more litigious than the U.S., IIRC.
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Maybe the hit-robot Blooming site was unaware of this exquisite service: A Better Routeplanner
It supports many different EVs and computes consumption according to topography, speed preference etc.
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I am concerned by the Trump, I would hate to see it spun by there administration that Musk is jumping in to bed with China and neglecting US workforce,( not my opinion but I can see shorts speculating this idea)
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Causalien
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I think that was just C'alien's subtle barb at OI's unsubtle pronouncification of that very country's name.
That way of pronounciation really grew on me like a cow girl's southern accent.
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