damnit! I wanted white but it was an extra $1,000 and had to get black. Now I can be one of those that complains about the ordering process. yay.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
I feel Elon and Tesla have fundamentally pivoted on their plan on "showing" other auto manufacturer's how to make EV's and stay a premium product with relatively small scale(compared to like Volkswagen). Seeing how badly traditional auto makers failed on their attempts at EV's and how slow progress has been has pushed Tesla into an all out assault on the status quo and they're going to attempt to do it themselves. If traditional auto makers don't want to adapt, Tesla will bankrupt them into submission through their efficiency and cost cutting measures.
Holy Cow! Advanced Summon applied to those parking lots at WDW!!! Yes!!! Air conditioning plus “It’s a Small World” playing on that great sound system.Instead of the Disney staff driving the cars into places, the cars are FSD and drive themselves into places for the park guests to get in.....then when the guests get out, they drive themselves over to their charging stations or to the staging area for the next guests...….it would BLOW the guests away and be incredible publicity for Tesla's FSD
Next RORO heads to Port Canaveral, then a robo-convoy up the Beeline!
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Pezpunk
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this would be like using a gold-plated fork to cram kitty litter down my throat.
I suppose it is futile to remind anyone here that enhanced summon was supposed to be ready in 6 weeks like 9 months ago already? The only thing what is getting more real and real is my inability to take any timeline regarding this product seriously.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree...
Where I live there are no NoA approved freeways. But now I'm on holiday. With my Tesla ofcourse. Beeing the family nerd I've read about NoA and have been looking forward to try. But it's pretty much useless.
It can exit the freeway - which is useful I guess. Driving around Oslo and then crossing the border into Sweden driving to Gothenburg and Stockholm with NoA is both stressful and frustrating. It suggests lane changes. I approve with the stalk. Then a couple of seconds later it aborts. I stopped at a layby and checked the settings.
Changed NoA to MadMax mode. But Max Max is a whimp. In 20-30 minutes of driving in light Sunday traffic it didn't manage to change lanes once. So I got stuck in the slow lane behind everything there. Tried NoA on several other occasions the last few days. The only one getting mad was me!
The ordinary adaptive cruise control and auto steering is very nice on freeways. But NoA really is a frustrating gimmick. I am one of Elons biggest fans and I can see NoA evolving into FSD but the current version is basically useless. It reminds me of when to get off the freeway. Nice. But that's it.
i thought i was a curmudgeon
I'm sorry but I have to disagree...
Where I live there are no NoA approved freeways. But now I'm on holiday. With my Tesla ofcourse. Beeing the family nerd I've read about NoA and have been looking forward to try. But it's pretty much useless.
It can exit the freeway - which is useful I guess. Driving around Oslo and then crossing the border into Sweden driving to Gothenburg and Stockholm with NoA is both stressful and frustrating. It suggests lane changes. I approve with the stalk. Then a couple of seconds later it aborts. I stopped at a layby and checked the settings.
Changed NoA to MadMax mode. But Max Max is a whimp. In 20-30 minutes of driving in light Sunday traffic it didn't manage to change lanes once. So I got stuck in the slow lane behind everything there. Tried NoA on several other occasions the last few days. The only one getting mad was me!
The ordinary adaptive cruise control and auto steering is very nice on freeways. But NoA really is a frustrating gimmick. I am one of Elons biggest fans and I can see NoA evolving into FSD but the current version is basically useless. It reminds me of when to get off the freeway. Nice. But that's it.
Im not sure if it’s available there, but I’m talking about with lane change confirmation turned off. At least in the states, that’s available. And amazing. My autopilot is currently broken(service is working on figuring out what’s wrong), but I did have the no-confirmation for a while before that happened. It certainly isn’t perfect, but it’s far from a gimmick.
Enhanced Summon is already out there. I've seen videos. It's just not in wide release yet. It will be next month. If you don't believe it, don't buy FSD. I bought it for $2000 in January and I am confident it will be worth many times that while I still own my car. That is all that matters.
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StealthP3D
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Patience is a learned behavior. I have an innate tendency to be impatient but have learned over the years that things will happen when they are ready, not a moment before. If the timing of an expected event is out of my control, I have learned to be patient. Much better that way.
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Todd Burch
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There is a lot of criticism about Musk's insane deadlines regarding FSD, Advanced, summon, etc.
But let me just make one point:
Tesla doesn't have to meet any of Musk's lofty deadlines.
All they have to do is get there faster than everyone else.
The secret that critics often fail to recognize is that Musk's deadlines inspire the latter.
But let me just make one point:
Tesla doesn't have to meet any of Musk's lofty deadlines.
All they have to do is get there faster than everyone else.
The secret that critics often fail to recognize is that Musk's deadlines inspire the latter.
Okay.
Maybe you can go and look back at what I posted previously to see what I was talking about regarding tax credits. But, I get it. People in today’s society just don’t like to take even a minute to understand what someone is saying. Your response is just like the people who quickly respond to everything regarding politics on Twitter these days without thought.
I was quoting myself on a previous post I made that the effect of tax credit expiration to potential Tesla buyers is overblown because Tesla eventually lowers prices to more than offset the loss in credits.
I bought my TSLA after owning my TMX a few weeks and experiencing the Autopilot. So I am a beliver and long term TSLA holder. People report very different experiences with autopilot functionality. So while I hope for FSD soon I'm not holding my breath. Still some work to be done. The question is how much?
Interesting - no "no-confirmation" available on my car. But I should think the lane change would be the same. So when I confirm immidiately after getting a suggestion it should not drive much different?
The manual lane changes when you take the initiative with the stalk work much better. Perhaps because I guess I check the mirrors first.
I take it your Tesla manage to change lanes both with and without confirmation? As in most of the times it tries? That would be a good thing - it's hope for me too eventually. I'm on SW 2019.24.1 so pretty much up to date I belive.
Interesting - no "no-confirmation" available on my car. But I should think the lane change would be the same. So when I confirm immidiately after getting a suggestion it should not drive much different?
The manual lane changes when you take the initiative with the stalk work much better. Perhaps because I guess I check the mirrors first.
I take it your Tesla manage to change lanes both with and without confirmation? As in most of the times it tries? That would be a good thing - it's hope for me too eventually. I'm on SW 2019.24.1 so pretty much up to date I belive.
I have thought all along that FSD would be harder than Elon apparently expected. Different scenarios have different problems. On a divided highway, the instructions can be pretty simple (get me to exit 42) and the road geometry is easy to figure out (well-marked lanes), but the consequences of a mistake are much more serious, and if the software gets confused (...Jersey barrier...) there likely won't be time for the driver to take over. In a parking lot, the geometry is more complicated (confusing markings, pedestrians, other cars driving on the left...), but the computer can slow down. City streets are in between. I'm willing to believe that parking lots will wind up being the easier problem.
Yes, though that was back with 2019.8.5. Failures to actually change were rare, even in Bay Area traffic
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