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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Bah, you owe me a cup of coffe. And one of those wipey-thingies for my screen...
Cheers!
StealthP3D
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Woot! Truck people? No such species. They come in all types. It's like saying "seed birds".
How do you polish it? That's the beauty of it. Who cares!
It’s amazing how one small change takes it from radical to much more iterative.
Tesla Cybertruck: Made for Iceland?
Ok I’m past my shock and awe phase. I agree that it’s obvious that Tesla has made some kind of significant advance here but left it to us to figure out what that is exactly. 500 mile range for $69k. That is oceans apart from any competition.
Point is - what’s under the hood - I mean, what’s under the floorboards is way more impactful than this single vehicle design.
Gali is going to go apoplectic over this.
Point is - what’s under the hood - I mean, what’s under the floorboards is way more impactful than this single vehicle design.
Gali is going to go apoplectic over this.
bhtooefr
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Tesla's website says no paint, FWIW:
The roof peak seems like flow won't remain attached at all, causing some pretty bad drag. And, the inspiration that Musk tweeted earlier - the Lotus Esprit - has a flat roof section. (However, the rear aerodynamics look like they're excellent.)
The tall and angled sidewalls on the bed cause issues for some uses - the big things I can think of off the top of my head... things like truck bed campers rely on the overhang to make space, and you can't load 53 bales of hay on it (granted, it's a 6.5' bed, you weren't loading 53 bales of hay anyway).
Ultimately, the Cybertruck feels like it's designed for towing, and for people who think they need a truck because they want something "rugged" but really don't. As in, it's legitimately better than a Real Truck for the poser workload, but because there are Real Truck workloads that it's utterly unable to do, the posers may question it. (But, any legit off-road cred and towing cred will likely outweigh that.)
The unibody architecture makes different configurations harder - an extended cab 8' bed version would be interesting, especially if the high side panels and tonneau could somehow be removable.
With 3500 pound payload, I have trouble believing that any trim level is 8500 lbs or less GVWR - that would require 5000 lbs or less curb weight, and the tri-motor trim may easily be above 10,000 lbs GVWR, unless massive battery breakthroughs get the weight down. This means that registration costs will be significantly higher, and some areas may ban it (this was a problem for H2 buyers when it was popular, as it was over 8500 lbs GVWR).
Speaking of battery breakthroughs, they'll definitely be needed to get the cost down - that 250 mile range will be a 100 kWh pack minimum I'd say, with those aerodynamics and that size.
Motor Trend's report on the prototype confirms what it looked like when it was being beaten upon on stage, that it was hastily put together. Importantly, also, not representative of the final truck.
SP will go down tomorrow (well, today). I'm not sure what it'll do next week (major holiday may dampen any recovery, but I think it may go back up?)
(my emphasis)
The roof peak seems like flow won't remain attached at all, causing some pretty bad drag. And, the inspiration that Musk tweeted earlier - the Lotus Esprit - has a flat roof section. (However, the rear aerodynamics look like they're excellent.)
The tall and angled sidewalls on the bed cause issues for some uses - the big things I can think of off the top of my head... things like truck bed campers rely on the overhang to make space, and you can't load 53 bales of hay on it (granted, it's a 6.5' bed, you weren't loading 53 bales of hay anyway).
Ultimately, the Cybertruck feels like it's designed for towing, and for people who think they need a truck because they want something "rugged" but really don't. As in, it's legitimately better than a Real Truck for the poser workload, but because there are Real Truck workloads that it's utterly unable to do, the posers may question it. (But, any legit off-road cred and towing cred will likely outweigh that.)
The unibody architecture makes different configurations harder - an extended cab 8' bed version would be interesting, especially if the high side panels and tonneau could somehow be removable.
With 3500 pound payload, I have trouble believing that any trim level is 8500 lbs or less GVWR - that would require 5000 lbs or less curb weight, and the tri-motor trim may easily be above 10,000 lbs GVWR, unless massive battery breakthroughs get the weight down. This means that registration costs will be significantly higher, and some areas may ban it (this was a problem for H2 buyers when it was popular, as it was over 8500 lbs GVWR).
Speaking of battery breakthroughs, they'll definitely be needed to get the cost down - that 250 mile range will be a 100 kWh pack minimum I'd say, with those aerodynamics and that size.
Motor Trend's report on the prototype confirms what it looked like when it was being beaten upon on stage, that it was hastily put together. Importantly, also, not representative of the final truck.
SP will go down tomorrow (well, today). I'm not sure what it'll do next week (major holiday may dampen any recovery, but I think it may go back up?)
Buckminster
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StealthP3D
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I would never paint stainless steel.
But why?
I'd be more likely to use abrasives and a rotary tool to etch designs in it if I really felt the need to customize it. Which is unlikely if the truck was so badass to begin with.
sundaymorning
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It’ll be glamorized in hip hop culture all around the world.
Did anyone get an email after ordering? I didn't, and then I thought I may have ordered the wrong one so I ordered it again. Still no email. After the endless wait for my Sig X I swore I'd never do this again, but I love this thing and the incredible possibilities it offers.
Last observation before heading to bed:
Not 500 miles. Not 400 miles. Not 300 miles.
There is No Way what we saw tonight can get beyond 200 miles on a charge, without something more than a 300kWh battery.
How can your Dear Moderator make such a seemingly careless statement? Easy:
I looked at those energy-chewing tires shown. A case of hand-forged doughnuts to anyone who can convince me those are much better than about 750 wh/mile beasts.
Not 500 miles. Not 400 miles. Not 300 miles.
There is No Way what we saw tonight can get beyond 200 miles on a charge, without something more than a 300kWh battery.
How can your Dear Moderator make such a seemingly careless statement? Easy:
I looked at those energy-chewing tires shown. A case of hand-forged doughnuts to anyone who can convince me those are much better than about 750 wh/mile beasts.
Ordered five of them with different configurations (rwd, awd, tri, w/wt fsd). will decide later which one to keep.
The design will probably alienate some of traditional truck drivers, but it surely attracts a lot of city drivers like me who would never consider buying a truck otherwise.
The design will probably alienate some of traditional truck drivers, but it surely attracts a lot of city drivers like me who would never consider buying a truck otherwise.
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Holy mother of god, 30 pages to catch up... Well, the truck is even weirder than we imagined, eh? It's so whacko that I rather like it.
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