Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[LJS22]

if the futures hold, GM probably hasn't seen this share price in years: General Motors Company (GM) Stock Price, Quote, History & News - Yahoo Finance

guess that investor day didn't work out.

They should have raised $2 billion instead of announcing an expensive transition to Tesla’s market.

 

[kbM3]

I don't know where to begin on this.

Let's just say that on the way to becoming a millionaire many times over, I have paper "losses" more than 100 times as large as the millions that I took home in the form of realized gains.

You are counting "paper losses" on intra-day price moves, aren't you? Or do only end of day closing prices count?

Taken to the extreme, we can count losses anytime the bid price drops from the last trade.

@dha stated that paper losses are real losses. You seem to disagree, but it is not clear from your response how you view the difference.

Can you define the difference between a paper loss and a real loss and give explicit examples of each?

 

[TheTalkingMule]

if the futures hold, GM probably hasn't seen this share price in years: General Motors Company (GM) Stock Price, Quote, History & News - Yahoo Finance

guess that investor day didn't work out.

You know TSLA is down $100 in pre-market right?

 

[BornToFly]

The Saudis figured out how to get back into TSLA....

 

[Leo9]

$SPY about to gap down 8%! Crazy opening.

 

[ev-enthusiast]

TSLA below $600 in a moment.

 

[Fobble]

@dha stated that paper losses are real losses. You seem to disagree, but it is not clear from your response how you view the difference.

Can you define the difference between a paper loss and a real loss and give explicit examples of each?

I assume your question is genuine and not sarcastic. I believe he means "paper loss" here as unrealized loss, meaning if you don't sell the stock, the loss will never be real. As stated many times here, it's all depending on your investment horizon. If you are long term investor and believe in Tesla, you know the share price will come back and beyond current level one day. It may be 3 months, 6 months or >1 year. The point is Tesla has good roadmap, good product line, name recognition, and executes well. I don't have doubt that Tesla will emerge stronger after all these settle down.

 

[MP3Mike]

@dha stated that paper losses are real losses. You seem to disagree, but it is not clear from your response how you view the difference.

Can you define the difference between a paper loss and a real loss and give explicit examples of each?

Here is one: You can't deduct a paper loss from your taxes because it isn't real yet.

 

[Highway2Heel]

Circuit breaker just tripped?

 

[Dr. J]

Took 4 minutes for S&P 500 to hit the 7% loss to trigger a 15 minute halt in trading.

 

[Fobble]

I think the first circuit breaker tripped (15 mins halt)

 

[Mkorpal]

I believe the tripped the circuit breaker.

 

[LJS22]

Tesla came out on fire! $15 rise in first 5 minutes haha

 

[TheTalkingMule]

Bye Mnuchin! Bye Pence! Lol.....

 

[Rb48888]

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Fobble]

Circuit Breaker rules:

Level 1 halt (on -7%)

• Trading will halt for 15 minutes if drop occurs before 3:25 p.m.
• At or after 3:25 p.m.—trading shall continue, unless there is a Level 3 halt.

Level 2 halt (on -13%)

• Trading will halt for 15 minutes if drop occurs before 3:25 p.m.
• At or after 3:25 p.m.—trading shall continue, unless there is a Level 3 halt.

Level 3 halt (on -20%)

• At any time during the trading day—trading shall halt for the remainder of the trading day.

 

[LN1_Casey]

Boo, $5 over my buy point.

 

[kbM3]

I assume your question is genuine and not sarcastic. I believe he means "paper loss" here as unrealized loss, meaning if you don't sell the stock, the loss will never be real. As stated many times here, it's all depending on your investment horizon. If you are long term investor and believe in Tesla, you know the share price will come back and beyond current level one day. It may be 3 months, 6 months or >1 year. The point is Tesla has good roadmap, good product line, name recognition, and executes well. I don't have doubt that Tesla will emerge stronger after all these settle down.

Sorry, but tax consequences aside, the loss is just as real as any other loss, whether you sell or not.

Here is one: You can't deduct a paper loss from your taxes because it isn't real yet.

‘Agree there may be a difference in tax consequences, but I took his meaning to extend beyond that.

 

[TheTalkingMule]

The CNBC Roku app won't even connect now. Do I have enough canned goods?

 

[theschnell]

I understand the TSLA circuit breaker, but why is TM also frozen since its down only 3.31%?