Methinks the Market Monkeys have given up with $2100 and are now hedging it...? Not an advice.
The attraction of a $420.69 split is just too strong.
The attraction of a $420.69 split is just too strong.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Dancing Lemur
Hoopy Frood
That volume spike starting at 9:45 sure looks like it. That’s not just some whale buying. When they do that to the downside, it’s “manipulation”. This: “hedging”.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
The ridiculous number of calls open around $2100 cannot be explained by spreads; there' almost as much open interest in those five strikes as the entire rest of the options pool. It seems like the same strategy that someone had a couple of weeks ago: buy a lot of calls and force the market makers to buy to delta hedge them.
The five strikes from $2090-$2110 have a total open interest of around 54,000 contracts, representing 5.4 million shares, worth north of $10B dollars. It isn't Porsche-Volkwagen levels but it's a lot.
The five strikes from $2090-$2110 have a total open interest of around 54,000 contracts, representing 5.4 million shares, worth north of $10B dollars. It isn't Porsche-Volkwagen levels but it's a lot.
UkNorthampton
TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
I think people forget about what happened in World War 2 - a time of immense technological progress where early advances were stymied by bureaucracy, armed forces, civilian and supplier politics.
Pre-war - not much money, very bureaucratic, top-down - glacial.
Real threat to existence and way of life led to old wood being trimmed or by-passed. Even then progress could have been faster if the need to produce huge volumes wasn't so intense.
Eventually rapid development became the norm, factories, models, field modifications - everything.
Tesla seems to be one of the few organisations where being an innovation-stopper, safe-path follower or magical thinker is dangerous for your job. Facts, first principles and fast progress reign.
No wonder they are so popular for young engineers. Very few companies are like this, I'm not sure I have another non-Musk example.
12 startups in 1
humbaba
sleeping until $7000
Be careful with Market Watch -- I've noticed significant lag in their volume reporting. Right now it says 2.6M while it is actually 3.281M
edit: if you watch the volume graph it will slowly build up. The initial spike can keep growing, for more than an hour, particularly on high volume days
It's cool if we end the week at 2199 in my book. 
Then "after hours announcement" of inclusion on Friday can push it to $2400.
Edit. It's not cool in my book? I guess I need to look again.
Then "after hours announcement" of inclusion on Friday can push it to $2400.Edit. It's not cool in my book? I guess I need to look again.
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It seems like this group at Stanford is not on the cutting edge. Just a hunch based on these videos that have been circulating the past few days.
And not worry about your health...
No after hours this Friday, nor pre-trading on Monday.
engle
Member
Someone several pages back shared the fires near Fremont made them nervous. Yesterday, at 5 pm PDT, the "Fire Evacuation Warning Zone" that was 3 miles away from Tesla Factory was lifted. The huge fire is still burning, but the current hot spots are nowhere near Fremont or the factory.
When I just showed this to my wife she remarked that it is amazing a large company could have a 10-1 increase in just 12 months. I wonder if this has ever happened before, e.g. $40B to $400B or similar?
When I just showed this to my wife she remarked that it is amazing a large company could have a 10-1 increase in just 12 months. I wonder if this has ever happened before, e.g. $40B to $400B or similar?
guessing? or is there something material about your comment?? Watching all the action on Tesla, it really seems to me that big whales are buying left and right and are trying to be cautious about not letting the stock run too high.
I am actually really glad about the stock split. Finally, I would be able to afford option plays on Tesla on the american ones. I hate it, but due to the high prices, I have been forced to play with the european ones, and by god they are so rigged. The only advantage that I see with the european options are that you get to dollar cost average and can get into the game for your choice of strike price and expiry with your choice of money you would like to spend. Dont get me started on how they stack the odds against you. Kids if you are watching, stay away from european options if you can.
With all the crazy gains, in the last few months, I am just wondering about how do I move my returns (10X my net worth) over to IB to trade american. I am in a soup that I might have to pay the tax already if I close the european option positions. Damn. Get me a meeting with the german lawyers already!!
We about to hit 420B Market Cap soon.
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. Might have to just frame this in case we don’t get another shot at 420.69 lol. Mods, sorry for the OT. Please don’t ban me!
As one of this forum’s Market Historians, my answer is “No”.Someone several pages back shared the fires near Fremont made them nervous. Yesterday, at 5 pm PDT, the "Fire Evacuation Warning Zone" that was 3 miles away from Tesla Factory was lifted. The huge fire is still burning, but the current hot spots are nowhere near Fremont or the factory.
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When I just showed this to my wife she remarked that it is amazing a large company could have a 10-1 increase in just 12 months. I wonder if this has ever happened before, e.g. $40B to $400B or similar?
It’s not that difficult to determine, as long as you keep the resultant number high enough - like >$250 billion. I’m not going to go through the entire list but someone might see how close Facebook may have come to this level of performance.
Caveats:
1. US market only. China’s market contains some >$250 billion whales and there may be one or two there.
2. Not adjusted for inflation, however - in that my father imparted to me his own many decades of direct market knowledge I can speak reasonably fluently of the past eighty years - the US equities market did not traditionally have such immense swings amongst its blue chips, not even in the immediate pre-War years coming out of the Great Depression.
Could it be that manipulators who were shorting Tsla on monday (A big day with 1% increase on SandP) are only just covering after 2 days? Or do these algos usually cover on the same day? It was so weird to see tesla go down when the broader markets were so euphoric. Check out the attachment
P.S. I am sorry for starting so many discussions in paralell. I got fast fingers
P.S. I am sorry for starting so many discussions in paralell. I got fast fingers
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