Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[HG Wells]

"The "quality check" delay will last an average of 30 days,"

On the upside, there must be a hell of a lot of quality if they need 30 days of checks!

Well, the check is in the mail and the post office is very slow.

 

[traxila]

So when is the re-rebalancing happening? I am tired of market pretending that 1.5% 10yr yield is bad when nasdaq and tsla were rallying at 2-2.5% yield before covid.
If anything, more stimulus has been added and tech has proven to be the future of ways of working (covid or not).

let them buy value stocks like Wells Fargo or Chevron or GM, I will stick with the growth / tech and Tesla.

Macro collapses kill every stock.

Then the investors sort them out.

 

[Artful Dodger]

"The next big policy push out of Washington could target the renewable energy space" | CNBC

 

[strago13]

Speaking of rebalancing, when is S&P 500 rebalancing? After Q1?

If we linger below 695? for to long, won't the S&P500 index holders dump a bunch of shares since our weight has decreased? that sounds like a terrible future outcome given the current sentiment surrounding the stock. We could retest 500 if that happens.

 

[Zero CO2]

I've been looking at the market for growth stocks still cant find a company with a brighter future than Tesla ... been focusing my research the last few months on AI and FSD and every day it gets clearer that Tesla has a huge /growing lead ...the network effect will be similar to GOOGL, FB ...winner take most ... there won't be a viable competitor until the Android equivalent for FSD shows up (apple, google , etc) at which point the disjoint OEMs will have to scramble to get on board ... the problem is this is a slow motion train wreck for OEMs ... it is not happening as fast as the smart phone ... but the results will be just as dire for the OEMs ... all the FUD about the EV competitors is just that FUD... by the time their strategies are realized it will be too late ....

any way here are my DCA purchases the last month or so ... might take a while for the $750, $751 and $800 to be green again ... but in 5 years the $175/share delta will seem minor ...i am now beyond my original share target


Acquired Quantity Cost Basis Per Share
3/4/2021 50 $625.00
3/3/2021 50 $660.00
2/23/2021 15 $676.00
2/23/2021 50 $651.00
2/22/2021 25 $751.00
2/22/2021 25 $715.00
2/22/2021 50 $750.00
1/29/2021 25 $801.00

these purchases are a lot less risky than the shares I bought in 2017/2018/2019 and even 2020 ... never have had greater conviction in a single stock...

Edit : one more point to make on these share purchases they are across multiple accounts some tax advantaged all GTC limit orders ... set it and forget it ... i have a few limit GTC in the $500's/sh hoping we don't see those price points... but will be ready if the FUD machine keeps cranking out the hits....

 

[st_lopes]

Speaking of rebalancing, when is S&P 500 rebalancing? After Q1?

If we linger below 695? for to long, won't the S&P500 index holders dump a bunch of shares since our weight has decreased? that sounds like a terrible future outcome given the current sentiment surrounding the stock. We could retest 500 if that happens.

Not quite. It’s a relative weighting. So, if other constituents have also dropped then the overall weight of Tesla may not be all that different. Rebalances usually aren’t major selling or buying (high volume days, but usually not directional) events, Tesla inclusion day excluded.

 

[Rotte]

Linette Lopez (remember her) is still trolling Elon. Her twitter feed is filled with one mean or whiny post after another. Is she really a journalist? Perhaps she is still is employed by Chanos.

https://twitter.com/lopezlinette/status/1367580022224134148?s=20

 

[Drax7]

Macros seem to be doing better than what the rate increase suggest for now. There will be a point that no one gives a crap about bond yields...because bond yields WILL go up from barely nothing...which never correlated with anything ever before except today for whatever reason.

Fed raising rates = different story. Calling BS to the Fed is speculation. Jim Crammer was talking about 2015 inflation scare..all it did was scare since no inflation happened. Inflation in 2015 was 0.12%, while it was 1.26% in 2016. So where the F is all this inflation?

For Inflation, check healthcare, education, housing .

 

[MikeAtkinson]

FactChecking has a 17 tweet thread on why he thinks 600 is the bottom.

https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1367772564429373440

Yesterday's $600 TSLA low could be close to the near-term bottom. TSLA is oversold, and $600 is a very good deal IMO. A dip below $600 is possible on momentum or negative news, but with caveats & all other things equal I consider it unlikely to last long.

 

[H Mak]

Linette Lopez (remember her) is still trolling Elon. Her twitter feed is filled with one mean or whiny post after another. Is she really a journalist? Perhaps she is still is employed by Chanos.

https://twitter.com/lopezlinette/status/1367580022224134148?s=20

She's a miserable toad and I wouldn't give her the benefit of clicking on that link

 

[Nocturnal]

FactChecking has a 17 tweet thread on why he thinks 600 is the bottom.

https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1367772564429373440

Something I want to very much believe from a person whose opinion I respect. Yes please.

 

[Singuy]

Something I want to very much believe from a person whose opinion I respect. Yes please.

FC just up because he did not expect people will be getting jobs coming out of this pandemic. Terrible for Tesla because Elon only accept payments in the form of dead covid victims according to Wallstreet price action.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/05/jobs-report-february-2021.html

 

[Cherry Wine]

FC just up because he did not expect people will be getting jobs coming out of this pandemic. Terrible for Tesla because Elon only accept payments in the form of dead covid victims according to Wallstreet price action.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/05/jobs-report-february-2021.html

379,000 jobs added compared to 210,000 expected. Yields spiking on the news.

 

[mongo]

Speaking of rebalancing, when is S&P 500 rebalancing? After Q1?

If we linger below 695? for to long, won't the S&P500 index holders dump a bunch of shares since our weight has decreased? that sounds like a terrible future outcome given the current sentiment surrounding the stock. We could retest 500 if that happens.

Not quite. It’s a relative weighting. So, if other constituents have also dropped then the overall weight of Tesla may not be all that different. Rebalances usually aren’t major selling or buying (high volume days, but usually not directional) events, Tesla inclusion day excluded.

The rebalancing is to adjust the investable weight factors and relative percentages thereof. This covers changes due to new shares issued and/or held-position adjustments which shifts the float percentage.
Changes due to stock price are inherently self adjusting (if a stock goes down, it is then less of a percentage of the index).
So TSLA being down does not directly cause a sell off. It would however reduce the dollar amount purchased as the index total value increases.

 

[TheTalkingMule]

Interesting re: potential Starlink SPAC...

Chamath Palihapitiya sells remaining personal stake in Virgin Galactic

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/05/cha...ctic-spce-stake.html?__source=androidappshare

 

[SunCatcher]

It's a thing! Future designs will have more triangles and polygons, plain and simple.

I'm starting to get a bit uneasy about this.

 

[asburgers]

NFP +379k vs 200k forecast. Private sector payrolls +465k vs 420k forecast.

Economy improving. Pre-markets red. Hmmmm....

 

[Sofie]

Any thoughts on whether today would be the best day to deploy the rest of my liquid capital?
I think there is support at 558$, but not sure if we see lower or maybe not even see that low.

 

[Pras]

As much as market will punish growth stock for strong jobs report, the growth stocks are the ones benefitting the most from a growing economy.

While they (market) are focused on discount rate in a DCF model, they are missing that the cash flow growth will be better in the growing economy.

 

[asburgers]

As much as market will punish growth stock for strong jobs report, the growth stocks are the ones benefitting the most from a growing economy.

While they (market) are focused on discount rate in a DCF model, they are missing that the cash flow growth will be better in the growing economy.

Exactement! That means exactly in fancy Canadian.

Also PEG is a better metric.