Rob deserves 30x-50x the viewers. He’s a total treasure. With almost every other YouTuber, I can usually find errors. It is nearly impossible with Rob.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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That graph looks like kindergartners on a field trip following their parents and teachers
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Terra and other stablecoins are interesting. They use various means to peg the value of a coin to the value of a fiat currency. In the case of Terra, they have TerraUSD which is pegged to the dollar and TerraLUNA a 2nd currency which can be burned to maintain the dollar peg of TerraUSD. These stablecoins are potentially useful as proxies for currency for doing secure online transactions. But transactions conducted in dollar-pegged stablecoins are effectively commerce being conducted in dollars.
The Basis project was actually trying to create a cryptocurrency with fiat currency style seignorage and a monetary policy that would ensure stable prices. Their work was extremely interesting, but realistically I think something like it will have to come from governments rather than private companies.
I did misspeak when I stated 4680’s 6X power and 5X energy implies a 1.2X Power density increase.
It really means a 4680 pack containing the same energy as a 2170 pack would have 1/5 as many cells each with 6X the power, so the pack would have a 1.2X power increase (Better C-Rate).
However Tesla said it will have a 54% (or 56% I can’t recall) range increase which I assume means roughly a 1.6X improvement in energy density.
Therefore the power density vs a 2170 pack would improve by 1.6 * 1.2 = 1.9X (not 1.2X).
Put another way: a 4680 pack of the same energy content as an old 2170 pack would have 20% more power. A 4680 pack of the same weight as a 2170 pack would contain 60% more energy capacity and provide 90% more power.
If everyone remembers the CYBRTK event mentioned a 250 kW+ charge rate with the PLUS to be revealed later. Also the Limiting Factor hypothesized Silicon anodes could drastically improve charging rates.
I’m hoping Thursday’s surprise is Tesla revealing the PLUS and a higher charge rate for S&X than expected. Even though the new S&X probably won’t have 4680’s, maybe they’ll have tabless and Silicon anodes and be able to accept 500 kW. Just the larger pack alone should enable 300 kW+ vs Model 3 which can take 250 kW.
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Tesla Giga Berlin Starts Testing of Model Y Production Lines
The construction of Giga Berlin is almost complete and Tesla has started testing equipment and production processes. Pictures from inside the factory show that testing is in an active phase, which means that the start of mass production can begin immediately, after receiving the final...
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Final CT design. Steals back thunder from Ford, Osborns nothing.
I would like this. As we know the tri motor CT variant will also have the plaid powertrain.
So maybe all plaid models on display/test ride? S/X/CT plaid would be cool. But I won’t hold my breath.
I think they should one-more-thing the price of plaid S/X go up $15k starting Monday.
You had to bring up toilet boy. Is he now big into crypto? Buy high, sell low gets them every time.
The problem with what you are doing is Tesla was illustrating how the 4680 cells would be better than the current 2170 cells. That is the most important part.... the current 2170 cells. Some of the improvements can be applied to the 2170 cells as well. And the net effect is the 4680 cells size makes it far cheaper to make, but it does in effect have a worse C rate when improvements are made to the 2170 as well. will they make these improvements to the 2170? We don't know. Will all of the improvements be made to the 4680 as Tesla hopes? We don't know.
But if you step 10 feet away, the 2170 cell has superior C rate in general. Will it matter for a a non performance car? No.
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A Plaid Y is probably hoping too much, and will pull so many demand levers that Tesla possibly will not be able to handle the surge.
But hear me out : a 4680 Long Range + / Ludicrous Y ?
JMHO/speculation - it could be within the realm of possibilities. When Austin starts cranking out the 4680 Ys: how would Tesla be able to differentiate between the Austin 4680Y and the Fremont 2170Y if they were of the same range/features. Why would anyone in the US want to get a Fremont Y if priced the same with the same range, but know that the Austin Y has the 4680 + structural pack.
Which is what makes me root for a new Y tomorrow as the one more thing. Use Kato Road's stockpile of 4680s to kickstart a low volume, high margin product line at Austin while working on the battery production ramp at Austin. Fremont continues to make the regular Ys until 4680 volume production is met late 2022 at which point if needed the Fremont Y lines can be retooled if needed.
The more traditional looking pickup to go alongside the Cybertruck & really take from the Ford F-150 Lightning reservation holders/target market.
Tesla could easily sell every CT they can make for 36 months. No need for an 'alternate' model. There are just not enough batteries. Tesla could start to make a delivery van or class 4 stakebody next, when they actually have the batteries.
Phht. Bill Wright had some thoughts about Lightning…
If they are priced the same and has the same specs, why would anyone care which Y they get?
Poor analogy. While holding pocket 2’s the board can flop you another pair of 2’s.
Count on weird governmental machinations that excludes Tesla from benefits and reward unions and Detroit.
Hmmmm ... my question was to BeltsBear, whose post was deleted by him/herself. The fact that you would respond to correct yourself ...
tres susGetting closer to deliveries. The first report of a Plaid Model S vin
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Wiki - Model S Delivery Update
So, assuming everything comes together in the next couple of days (i.e. I get a VIN and it's attached to an actual car), how about 5 or 6pm PT on Friday for a Zoom call or would you prefer the weekend. I can do anything after noon PT, but figure folks need to work and stuff. In addition to...
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You apparently did not bother to read my posts before disagreeing as I had already made that exact point.
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