mars_or_bust
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Pierre had multiple points that gave him doubts and they are reasonable.
1. Will robotaxi demand be low in the near term? Waymo's program has demonstrated that demand for driverless taxi is low when it's too geofenced + not enough early adopters. This is currently true in Phoenix Arizona. Could just be that the tech is ahead of it's time so for the near term I agree with Pierre that if FSD was solved tomorrow, it'll take awhile before we have universal acceptance. When lives are on the line, people would like to wait a few years to see real world statistics and how often accidents happen. We understand that the media eats up any Tesla's mistakes and the first FSD accident will probably end up in the supreme court in the fight against Tesla's rollout given the spectacle it'll generate. I see major risk here.
2. Will robotaxi be profitable? Pierre mentioned google fiber being expensive. Ride hailing is also expensive. Uber being a software company makes only 38% gross margins on their revenue. This is absolutely abysmal when compared to other software makers. The reason is due to high cost on insurance and customer service, taking 40% of their total revenue. So it's going to be a long road ahead to reach profitability on ride hailing robotaxies. We are expecting revenue per customer to go down due to having no driver and to compete with people who own cars. However with price going down, we should see influx in demand which is where robotaxies should make it up. Taking marketshare from Uber is easy, however would half priced robotaxies make people want to ditch their cars completely? I think yes in the distant future, but not anytime soon.
1) With all due respect to Phoenix, Arizona, but who needs a cab there anyway? Who goes there who already does not have their own car
So not a relevant point. Plus, from the videos provided, Waymo is not very good at its businesses - the pick up positions and final destinations are pre set and often hundreds of meters from where you want the cab to be.
2) Uber is expensive because it needs to pay the driver. Plus, Tesla will take care of the insurance. Plus, electricity is much cheaper than gas. Plus. robotaxis can be operational 24/7, and not typically 8 hours/day, 6 days per week. Completely different model.