Exactly correct. And although it sounds like common sense to roll back a feature that explicitly breaks the letter of the law, this is a step backwards. With FSD beta you realize how poorly the majority of stop signs are placed, and that stopping at the sign itself requires the car to creep up and stop again, which is frustrating to everyone around you.
Yes, this is due to FSD Beta (public release doesn't handle stop signs) doing rolling stops at 4 way intersections. This was added to assertive mode around Oct 20th (and, while more humanish, does likely violate state laws)Maybe this is obvious to some - but 54,000 is close to 60,000; is the universe of cars with this feature the same as the FSD BETA? Just curious.
Also, not that it matters, but you can do this without any special software. Happened to me, 30+ years ago. Was arguing with the the other half and rolled right through an intersection in Chevy Chase, in front of a police car. Made an indelible impression on me as you can see. Permanent recall.
Felt like the thread needed some humor this morning.
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So far the morning's reaction to this is muted. There may be a calculus in people's heads that goes something like, "Ok, I think this is something Tesla needs to address, but I am more impressed by their ability to simultaneously address this immediately OTA than I am depressed that they have some sort of recall." Highlights Tesla's nimbleness.
I've had mine on assertive mode for a couple months because it sits at stop sign for too long, assertive didn't fix it, it still sits at stop signs for way too long so I'm not sure if the 54K recall is related to that mode.
Fine. Dead squirrel bounce, then.
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I can see where programing the vehicle to break traffic laws is a bad idea. One accident involving a rolling stop would not be good even if that action were not the cause.
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Which is always the fault of the following vehicle.
Humans break traffic laws when they see fit. So if rolling stops can't be implemented, what's to stop another recall for allowing you to drive 1 mph or more above speed limit while on FSD?
Exactly. I can see that happening. It always seemed a potential liability if the car is programed to break the law. Do you not think that will be used against Tesla at some point? Probably harder to prove that a few miles over the limit caused an accident but "going through" a stop sign would be more obvious.
The difference is that in the case of speeding, Tesla could sue because every other car manufacturer's cruise control can be set to whatever speed the driver wishes.
I disagree strongly with a carbon tax, lots of negatives there. First, it creates justified animosity towards EV owners/drivers, if those driving ICE are penalized. Second, it drives up the cost of ICE, which reduces the pressure on EV manufacturers to make better, more desirable and most importantly less costly vehicles, which is what will ultimately increase adoption. As Tesla had demonstrated so well, build a highly desirable car and people will buy it.
