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Hey now, some of us have much worse ratios than that.That account has a total of 233 posts in 2+ years.......he/she is just a troll that comes out from under their bridge when the stock is down.
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Hey now, some of us have much worse ratios than that.That account has a total of 233 posts in 2+ years.......he/she is just a troll that comes out from under their bridge when the stock is down.
This is starting to look like the best opportunity to acquire TSLA since last May. If we go significantly lower, it'll be the best opportunity to buy TSLA since March 2020, and man that was a good one....I'll be ready.
One last and final request from a moderator. If you feel a need to say "(is it allowed to mention this here? Mods: feel free to move to the other thread) you already know the answer, and should have posted it in the other thread yourself. Why would I do your work for you? I have better things to do....(is it allowed to mention this here? Mods: feel free to move to the other thread )
There have been valuation arguments on TSLA since day 1, but today is VERY different. Now that profits are pouring in and can be fairly easily projected based on scaling rather than some new product yet to be delivered, we can apply a proper PE ratio.I agree with you 100%...but nothing new, nothing has changed. The market, somehow JUST . DOESN'T.CARE
The excellent video below dissects the 4Q earnings call, with an emphasis on battery cells, but he gave his take on Optimus. He hypothesized that due to chip shortages, there is less work for talented R&D engineers to work on this year than Tesla had planned for them. So Elon just pivoted a bunch of them onto Optimus. Yeah, it is a bit early maybe to be working on Optimus, but if your engineering talent would otherwise be idle, might as well.
Anyways, I highly recommend listening to this video, released today, lots of good stuff.
No sane person has ever suggested this is likely to be a commercial reality at any specific time. When I posted it originally it was as an example of some potential disruptions at future times. The point, the only point is that unexpected disruptions can and do happen. Somehow someone has imagined thst this might be as likely as, say, solid state or sodium-ion battery cells, both of which are probable quite soon.Thanks for the link. I think it's important for Tesla investors to understand that this fusion accomplishment (by JET, not ITER) is not "huge news" that affects Tesla (or most anyone) for the foreseeable future.
According to the linked article, the Joint European Torus produced an average 11 MW of fusion energy for 5 seconds, after the machine was upgraded (using "4,000 tonnes of metal") to increase "plasma heating capacity from 24 MW to nearly 40 MW." The article doesn't mention how much energy input was required to get the 11 MW output, but it was certainly more than the output, or else the headline would have been net energy production.
Bob would know, since he formerly worked with one of the private fusion companies:
LPPFusion: Zero Emissions, Zero Nuclear Waste | Decentralized Fusion Energy
LPP Fusion is developing a new energy source, modeled on fusion energy that powers our Sun. The energy produced will be environmentally safe for all life on our planet.lppfusion.com
With all of those "market adjustments" that dealers have been tacking on, Ford's distribution costs are much more than $3,000 to $4,000...Article excerpts:
Ford’s distribution costs are $3,000 to $4,000 higher than Tesla’s...
It could be 60% down or more too. 80% down isn't remotely unheard of for a high beta growth tech issue.I didn’t know the regression to the mean concept was a stock going back to half its value.
3 times. Now let’s see if TSLA can beat AAPL or AMZN on those numbers.It could be 60% down or more too. 80% down isn't remotely unheard of for a high beta growth tech issue.
If you're bored, research how many times Apple had a draw down of 60-80% during it's history. Go ahead, I'm not going anywhere.
Yeah but all those companies were losing massive amount of money during the fall. Apple almost went bankrupt after getting rid of Jobs, and Amazon was a capex intensive scrappy nobody during the .com burst and had negative EPS during the financial crisis. Show me a company that's making tens of billions of net income/year with upward guide that has fallen 90%.3 times. Now let’s see if TSLA can beat AAPL often AMZN on those numbers.
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However, the ride for these stocks has seldom been smooth. For example, Apple has lost over 70% of its value three times during the stock’s history. Amazon, another strong performer has fallen by 90% on occasion. This means that substantial peak-to-trough drawdowns are not always a sign of a broken long-term investment thesis. »
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It's fine, Ford "is seeking to close that gap by attracting new talent with those skills." /sWith all of those "market adjustments" that dealers have been tacking on, Ford's distribution costs are much more than $3,000 to $4,000...
Yeah but all those companies were losing massive amount of money during the fall. Apple almost went bankrupt after getting rid of Jobs, and Amazon was a capex intensive scrappy nobody during the .com burst and had negative EPS during the financial crisis. Show me a company that's making tens of billions of net income/year with upward guide that has fallen 90%.
Totally agree with you, just that it seems to be sliding day by day.
I don't know why people crap on this car - Its a great example of low end & new Market disruption - I think its great and Tesla should have a model in this category in China as well (eventually, once they have excess capacity)Wuling Motors:
Owners SAIC Motor (50.1%), General Motors (44%)
That's quite a steep curve they have in Asia.
Tiny thing. Huh. Goes both directions, lol?
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(Edit: They clearly took a full-sized car door (GM?), then added the bookends.)
If this had been the Model 2, how would you feel as an investor? It looks so aerodynamic /s.I don't know why people crap on this car - Its a great example of low end & new Market disruption - I think its great and Tesla should have a model in this category in China as well (eventually, once they have excess capacity)
Not 90% bad, but In 2009, Apple lost 61% of its value from peak to trough, a couple of years AFTER the iPhone had launched and it was already earning ~$10 billion in profit and still in its early but proven stages of growing like crazy.Yeah but all those companies were losing massive amount of money during the fall. Apple almost went bankrupt after getting rid of Jobs, and Amazon was a capex intensive scrappy nobody during the .com burst and had negative EPS during the financial crisis. Show me a company that's making tens of billions of net income/year with upward guide that has fallen 90%.
Getting close to a bottom for sureNo bounce until annoying daytrader Twitter guy squeaksquare gets his margin call