Tesla not allowing people to buy leases doesn't have anything to do with Robotaxi. That was once what Tesla said, but they sell the cars after lease.
Another reason people don't lease is the mileage limits on the car.
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Another reason people don't lease is the mileage limits on the car.
With all this talk: I'm in for a small buy ladder. We'll see how it goes.
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Re: Houthis and shipping: doesn't this add yet another solid conflict-related reason to get off, you know, oil? Like even faster than we thought possible? The EU put the pedal to the metal once Russia invaded, and reduced gas usage faster than most all figured was possible (I know, they also built NG terminals but they reduced usage as well). Will this event help? What will the effect be on / opportunity be for Tesla, if so?
Re: Iran now seizing oil tankers: I have wondered for a long time whether they would do this; it seems like an easy, always-available fallback to them if oil prices ever go lower than they like. Again: talking to the rest of the world here: tired of these guys yet? Want to distribute energy WAY wider than it is now, with way lower barrier to entry? Similar question as to effect on / opportunity for Tesla? Is this short term pain, but even more long term gain?
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Re: Houthis and shipping: doesn't this add yet another solid conflict-related reason to get off, you know, oil? Like even faster than we thought possible? The EU put the pedal to the metal once Russia invaded, and reduced gas usage faster than most all figured was possible (I know, they also built NG terminals but they reduced usage as well). Will this event help? What will the effect be on / opportunity be for Tesla, if so?
Re: Iran now seizing oil tankers: I have wondered for a long time whether they would do this; it seems like an easy, always-available fallback to them if oil prices ever go lower than they like. Again: talking to the rest of the world here: tired of these guys yet? Want to distribute energy WAY wider than it is now, with way lower barrier to entry? Similar question as to effect on / opportunity for Tesla? Is this short term pain, but even more long term gain?
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Agreed. Leases are great for business because the miles are known and there is no question about how much can be written off. For the consumer it's far too easy to get a big hit and the end of the lease for damage or miles driven. It only takes a longer commute to get over the mile limit. Also if the consumer's financial situation changes for the worse they might not qualify for a new lease or loan--now they are without a car.
You’re going to struggle here if you can’t learn to embrace conspiracy theories.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
With legal naked shorting by Options Market Makers, and them being allowed proprietary trading, it's like having player-referees. But no accountablility, or visability into offshoring shorts to avoid SEC reporting rules, or simply mis-marking short sales as long.
It's all an abuse of their place of priviledge, and why they pay former SEC attorneys such high wages after they join the firm. Casino's are well-regulated by comparison. Wall-E is more of a brothel.
I know this is close to the banned "numerology" topic...
But just a friendly reminder that, in Elon's own time zone this tweet was sent out at 8:11 AM, on 5/1. And then, a few months later, on August 11 (8/11), Tesla announced the 5:1 split. Complete coincidence? Or "that's one way to lower the stock price" telegraphed months in advance?
cliff harris
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Far too many posts about the stock price (yes... it has irrational decline now and then, how many times have we seen this now?) and not enough about the fact that actual regular customers are now collecting their cybertrucks:
CC. Say Question - Hey Elon, why can't you buy after the lease?
Elon. OK, we will let you buy after the lease.
Well at least the SP won't go down further in the US on Monday...
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Thanks for again demonstrating how you cherry pick.
COGS was the least significant of the two reasons Tesla adjusts prices.
The most significant reason is to keep balance between production and demand. The price movements may not mean what you think they mean.
Oh, and I merely repeated your claim of not being a bear. Don't put words in my mouth.
Your posts tends to overlook factors that would rebut some of the statements you make.
Even though margins are the yardstick Wall St uses doesn't mean you will get an accurate measurement with a company that prioritizes moving product over profits. There is a Mission, different from those companies where that yardstick works well.
"Be less wrong" is something anyone may aspire to.
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An interesting video on CATLs cell manufacturing process. It's a bit high level and kitschy as it's from Fully Charged but interesting none the less. Apparently they have a cell that offers 500wh/kg.
I had an employee many years ago who was an NCAA champion and her brother a pro cyclist. She conveniently left that aspect out of all the water cooler talk. She quit due to all the bad decision making by some of the women leading to her getting caught up in crashes.Yup. In today's mens pro cycling tour unfortunately this does happen now. Many of the veteran cyclists are unhappy over the attitude of younger cyclists but the peleton is so competitive now it's aggressive from start to finish. No time to dawdle
Buckminster
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$2.5k cheaper than M3. Surely that is not sustainable. Unless they are expecting new batteries for M3?
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Why sell 3s when they can sell Ys?
Are you concerned about production or supplier capacity?
Buckminster
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Both, plus the market won't like Tesla being dependant on one vehicle. Maybe they will just heavily discount M3 inventory? Highlands are available in Feb so novelty won't help for long.
Humm, I'm not sure a more capable car at a lower effective price is really a bad thing.
Want low payments, get a 3
Want to purchase, get a Y
The Model 3 from Fremont can easily be sold outside the US. If everybody in the US prefer the Y.
I do not see a problem here.
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