Joe F
Disruption is hard.
No, the real question is, did you hit voice feedback after the "what happened" prompt, assuming your MX has the option, as not all S/X do, depending on age.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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GrandEnigma
Member
Quick thought, this will further erode the value prop of the Foundation Series CT, going to see some unhappy people there that already didnt like they were "paying" more than the locked in $7k FDS price for early res holders.
Krugerrand
Meow
Thanks for triggering internal anger.
You’re such a pal.Isn't the price supposed to increase the closer it gets to level 5?
Krugerrand
Meow
Everyone is well aware they’re paying for the privilege of being at the head of the line. So stop it.
FYI, I’m VERY impatiently waiting for my truck and this is how much I care about the new FSD monthly subscription rate:
*blinks*. What are we talking about?
GrandEnigma
Member
You and me both. But we know how people work. There is also nothing stopping Tesla from raising prices to $400mo tomorrow either.
Everyone is well aware they’re paying for the privilege of being at the head of the line. So stop it.
FYI, I’m VERY impatiently waiting for my truck and this is how much I care about the new FSD monthly subscription rate:
*blinks*. What are we talking about?
cliff harris
Member
When Tesla need to 100% nail roundabouts, they just need to release FSD in the UK. We have more roundabouts here than there are grains of sand in the sahara. We can supply the training data!
Weekend OT re: safety tech. ever heard of SawStop?
The have the tech to massively reduce injuries from table saw injuries that was patented. Lately then opened up parts of the tech to competitors so that everyone could make a safer saw. Even offered to license or help other manufacturers incorporate it.
Response by competitors: they don’t want to see safety tech mandated (cause they probably don’t know how and don’t want to pay to learn it)
Sound familiar?
The have the tech to massively reduce injuries from table saw injuries that was patented. Lately then opened up parts of the tech to competitors so that everyone could make a safer saw. Even offered to license or help other manufacturers incorporate it.
Response by competitors: they don’t want to see safety tech mandated (cause they probably don’t know how and don’t want to pay to learn it)
Sound familiar?
That's the price of a month's subscription, not the purchase price.
Again it is the price of a subscription, not purchase price. Subscriptions weren't available until over a year after that tweet,
Musskiah
DisGruntled
He's a heck of a salesman, isn't he?
Both Tesla cars and FSD were "appreciating assets" in 2020, but so was pretty much everything in the world
@DarkandStormy I feel like you are the burner account for Chanos, am I close? (I'm just bustin' your
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Krugerrand
Meow
It doesn’t matter what the drama white noise queens say. Literally people have been complaining monthly subscription too high, make it lower = more subscribers = WS loves it = higher SP. So now it’s lower and you immediately have to go looking for a reason for someone, anyone, to be upset about it.
I know exactly how people are. Don’t feed them.
Also country lanes you have to reverse up a bank so you let other cars pass.
Not discounting for not present value, the subscription price is 120 months of the purchase price of FSD.
You're being a bit pedantic here. Perhaps the purchase price will come down or perhaps this is the time when Tesla tries to convert everyone to a recurring payment (monthly) rather than a one time purchase.
Krugerrand
Meow
What is the national rate for table saw injuries!? Like are people submerging them in bathtubs, like toasters?
On a serious note: didn’t know they existed and will now consider one of their products since The Mountain is in need of one. Thanks.
Personally, I hope Tesla keeps an FSD purchase option, at least for personal (not business/robotaxi) use.
It would also be nice if Tesla applied a real value to the FSD purchase when a used car comes back to them. The rumors I hear now say that if you trade-in a Tesla with purchased FSD to Tesla, they put approximately zero value on FSD since they can just enable or disable it on your car before reselling it. As a customer, that feels rather lousy. Either assigning a dollar figure, or a discount toward FSD on a new car, would be great from my perspective as a customer. I don't think the "Free FSD transfer" can go on forever...but a discount seems like a good balance.
It would be even better if there was some benefit of the purchase over the subscription cost. For example, if FSD sells for $12K and a subscription is $99/month...then maybe they value purchased FSD on a returned vehicle at something like $12K minus $90/month until it reaches zero. Personally, I prefer a reasonable "purchase up front" option, but also don't want to be punished for it.
I happen to be one of those folks who hates subscriptions and/or monthly payments, and prefers to pay up front when possible. I fully understand that many financially savvy people who have the up-front money would invest it wisely, make the monthly payments instead, and come out ahead at the end. The "weight" of a monthly payment, combined with some finite risk that the corresponding investment might implode, just doesn't happen to sit well in my brain.
Joe F
Disruption is hard.
I thought about this some more. Given that there is an entrance to the PB from the road you were on, before the traffic circle, why, after seeing the car was route planning either around the circle, wrong way or not, would you even have let it go past said entrance? Makes no sense.
That was just a sales pitch.
Many mocked it at the time. Of course they will have to drop prices (and continue to drop prices) to increase adoption.
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