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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Clearly way too competent at engaging with investors. That’s not the Tesla way.
I told you that I'm old, now ancient events seem just like yesterday. As my spouse has said, "for you everything was five years ago".I’ll bet it was more like a half-century…
I don’t buy your explanation. Preventing Drew from join the competition is
Worth more than firing him.
Drew and Rohan leaving are sad news indeed. Rohan particularly as I felt he was a fantastic communicator between Tesla and the public / investors. I think he helped to fill a communication gap which Tesla suffers from, especially when it comes to fighting against FUD. IMHO.
Concerning how they happened simultaneously too, in my opinion.
Concerning how they happened simultaneously too, in my opinion.
Mike Smith
Active Member
I have a crazy theory, here me out - maybe working somewhere for 18 years is a really long time and he wants to do something else.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Do you think that is Drew's only choice, join the competition?
Did JB Straubel join the competition when he left Tesla?
What if Drew carries on the Mission by developing a parallel company, or helps another existing company like Redwood to grow faster?
Or, just kicks back and enjoys life for a while.
EDIT: Wait... do you actually think Drew was fired?
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Leaving my rejoinder high and dry and meaningless? Ha! Gotcha back: go see.
I want to give people the benefit of the doubt but sometimes I get the feeling your sole purpose here is to pick fights.
Anyway, if your question is serious - Tesla is a disappointment for shareholders lately and the quickly declining growth needs to be addressed somehow, either by cutting costs (as today) or by a clearly communicated plan on how to increase revenues.
It sucks to see an engineering powerhouse leave Tesla. Working with Drew wasn't always easy as he always demanded the best from everyone at all times, but like Elon, was just about the engineering and only the engineering so you always knew you could count on focus and rigor in the teams he directed.
We lost a key engineer to Apple in 2014 who left in a whirlwind of emotion and my initial reaction was very negative towards Drew. I thought his poor management skills were mostly to blame. I came to understand that not only was the departure just due to engineering disagreements, but he was 'in the right' and held his ground with dignity and understanding for the rest of the team, explained what happened logically and ended up with that engineer returning years later.
My good thoughts on this topic are that he did quite a bit to ensure that folks stayed in sync, knew the logic, strategy and vision. This promoted cross-functional learning, allowed forward thinkers to excel, allowed natural leaders to grow and ultimately create better products. My sense is that he's left a set of folks behind that will hit the ground running.
We lost a key engineer to Apple in 2014 who left in a whirlwind of emotion and my initial reaction was very negative towards Drew. I thought his poor management skills were mostly to blame. I came to understand that not only was the departure just due to engineering disagreements, but he was 'in the right' and held his ground with dignity and understanding for the rest of the team, explained what happened logically and ended up with that engineer returning years later.
My good thoughts on this topic are that he did quite a bit to ensure that folks stayed in sync, knew the logic, strategy and vision. This promoted cross-functional learning, allowed forward thinkers to excel, allowed natural leaders to grow and ultimately create better products. My sense is that he's left a set of folks behind that will hit the ground running.
Knightshade
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That's a perfectly reasonable possible explanation.
But I think some folks utter rejection of the possibility there are other, less bullish, ones... especially folks who insisted this was fake news like 10 minutes ago... might be worth a a reconsideration. But I don't feel terribly optimistic that'll happen.
It's easy to overreact to layoff announcements. Nearly all well run companies have highly competent employees who have solved crucial problems, but which are no longer needed.
In every organization people voluntarily leave to do other things. When major changes in production processes happen, as they are now doing at Tesla, the human resources needed do reduce. At Tesla, like many companies every couple of years such a realignment happens.
Realistically wise peopled not announce such events far in advance. People unaffected can be 'spooked'. They require careful planning in every respect.
When 2024 was billed as a year of consolidation and transformation we should have expected numerous surprises during the year.
That does not mean we do feel nervous.
In every organization people voluntarily leave to do other things. When major changes in production processes happen, as they are now doing at Tesla, the human resources needed do reduce. At Tesla, like many companies every couple of years such a realignment happens.
Realistically wise peopled not announce such events far in advance. People unaffected can be 'spooked'. They require careful planning in every respect.
When 2024 was billed as a year of consolidation and transformation we should have expected numerous surprises during the year.
That does not mean we do feel nervous.
Krugerrand
Meow
Every. Single. Time. A C-suite/high level employee leaves it’s the end of the world.
Peter Rawlinson
Nick Sampson
George Blankenship
Gilbert Passien
Jerome Guillen
J.B. Straubel
Deepak (twice)
Zack Kirkhorn
The CFO Dude between Deepak and Deepak
Doug Fields
All the FSD/AI/computer geeks and so many more
OMG, already. Give it a rest you doomsayers. It’s like they can’t think past the end of their noses.
He has countless options, including getting hired by Mercedes , VW etc to develope
Their electric unit.
But for sure he is not going to start an electric car company.
It occured to me: perhaps there was no traffic in the roundabout, but then I re-read the original report by @Musskiahand he said the car signaled (implying FSD was already engaged) and then a couple of cars passed in the roundabout, so FSD had both the sign and traffic it could evaluate. But it did indeed at least wait for traffic to pass...
Interesting he doesn't mention Elon
Layoffs are one thing. Resignations from top execs is a whole different one.
And we've been waiting for the "after-10K" talk for months now
Krugerrand
Meow
Are they screwed on in any other Tesla vehicle?Apparently was screwing in the accelerator covers on the Cybertruck
It is coordinated attack!
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Which would still help the mission, would it not?
I don't think he'd be a good fit at VW. Much like with Herbert Diess, they may still not be ready to make the drastic changes needed.
Mercedes, maybe. Ford possible as able to make good use of his talents as well.
Let's hope whatever he does will continue to accelerate the transition.
There need to be more successful EV companies out there. Particularly in the US.
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