Tesla Unlocks V2 Supercharger 145 kW Rate Via New Software Update

[TMC Staff]

It’s not V3, but still, V2 has a huge advantage and it’s rolling out via a software update. Tesla is now applying its innovative over-the-air software update ability to enable 145 kW-charging for the Model 3. We’re looking at an increase in charging rate of upwards of some 20 percent. Keep in mind, this is...
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[rayyu510]

When it's going to be available for Model S and X?

 

[TheLocNar]

Assuming the urban superchargers will remain 75kW?

 

[vickh]

would this speed up a 2015/6 MS? compared to SR+

 

[Big Earl]

Assuming the urban superchargers will remain 75kW?

72, and yes, that’s half of the max output (145 kW) of the Supercharger.

 

[Big Earl]

would this speed up a 2015/6 MS? compared to SR+

Depends on the battery pack. 90 kWh pack? Probably not. They’ve had to slow them down to about 85-90 kW max speed due to degradation issues.

 

[TheLocNar]

72, and yes, that’s half of the max output (145 kW) of the Supercharger.

Oops. Yes. 72. Darn fat thumb.

 

[brianman]

I briefly saw 121 kW Sunday night at Centralia (but didn't think much of it other than that I've never seen > 119 kW in any of my supercharger sessions on S or 3).

Perhaps I missed it in my skimming... The update they are talking about -- is it to the cars or the superchargers stalls themselves?

 

[Big Earl]

I briefly saw 121 kW Sunday night at Centralia (but didn't think much of it other than that I've never seen > 119 kW in any of my supercharger sessions on S or 3).

Perhaps I missed it in my skimming... The update they are talking about -- is it to the cars or the superchargers stalls themselves?

It's an update to the car's software.

 

[Silicon Desert]

Nice improvements. I just hope no one thinks a 20% charging rate equates to 20% less charging time

 

[SigNC]

still being at 117kW at 60% is a very big improvement. I think before my car would taper below this at 45%.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Nice improvements. I just hope no one thinks a 20% charging rate equates to 20% less charging time

For many road trip routes it is 20% less charging time assuming you're not sharing.

 

[Silicon Desert]

For many road trip routes it is 20% less charging time assuming you're not sharing.

I agree if most people charge in the range of about 20% to 80%. BUT, the car will charge at various amounts of current depending on a lot of factors and you probably know that. Once the car gets to a majority rate of charge, the car is going to lower the current well below that value. Then there is battery temp, etc. Still, always nice to see any improvement in charge time.

 

[Daniel in SD]

I agree if most people charge in the range of about 20% to 80%. BUT, the car will charge at various amounts of current depending on a lot of factors and you probably know that. Once the car gets to a majority rate of charge, the car is going to lower the current well below that value. Then there is battery temp, etc. Still, always nice to see any improvement in charge time.

If you're trying to get from point A to point B as fast as possible you can do 10% to 60% for most routes in CA. Of course my experience is that there is often a line at the supercharger...

 

[juliusa]

All the superchargers around here seem to be listed as "up to 120kW" or "up to 72kW". For example, the one that just opened in Parsippany NJ is listed as "up to 120kW" on the Tesla website.

Are the "up to 120kW" superchargers going to get a software update so they can deliver 145kW, or do they need to be replaced?

If a supercharger can deliver 145kW, does that mean it will deliver 145kW across two cars when paired? That would be a big improvement in throughput (20% more power) at busy supercharger locations.

 

[Silicon Desert]

If a supercharger can deliver 145kW, does that mean it will deliver 145kW across two cars when paired? That would be a big improvement in throughput (20% more power) at busy supercharger locations.

yes, that was the initial claim. I guess we will see if that is correct.

 

[Daniel in SD]

All the superchargers around here seem to be listed as "up to 120kW" or "up to 72kW". For example, the one that just opened in Parsippany NJ is listed as "up to 120kW" on the Tesla website.

Are the "up to 120kW" superchargers going to get a software update so they can deliver 145kW, or do they need to be replaced?

If a supercharger can deliver 145kW, does that mean it will deliver 145kW across two cars when paired? That would be a big improvement in throughput (20% more power) at busy supercharger locations.

Superchargers already deliver 145kW across two paired cars so it might not help that much at congested superchargers.

 

[juliusa]

Superchargers already deliver 145kW across two paired cars

When did that start? Will the superchargers listed as "up to 120kW" deliver 145kW to the M3s with updated software?

 

[Daniel in SD]

When did that start? Will the superchargers listed as "up to 120kW" deliver 145kW to the M3s with updated software?

I think the 120kW superchargers have always been 145kW shared so they should all be able to charge a single car at 145kW.

 

[juliusa]

All the "early" discussions on supercharger pairing were about sharing 120kW across two stalls, but sounds like they are now delivering 145kW shared across the pair.

It will be interesting to see if Tesla updates the "find us" and nav to show "up to 145kW".