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The New RAV4 EV
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strider
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You're correct. My comparison is not fair. We are going to keep our diesel Jeep Liberty for skiing, towing my motorcycle trailer to the track, long distance touring, etc. her daily commute is ~30 miles round trip so the RAV will have plenty of range for her.
If we get a Model S we're going to get a Signature and possibly a Sport - the sig is mainly my doing as I want it sooner and wife will likely want Sport as she wants it to accelerate like our Roadster. The RAV will of course have less range and performance. My thinking was that they'd be available for test drives around the same time and we'd drive them both and decide. If the RAV comes out a before we can drive the S she may just decide that the RAV works great and buy one.
@strider: If you've got the parking and the capital, your fleet sounds enviable and practical:
- Model S Sig Sport: performance luxury sedan
- Roadster: fun sportscar
- RAV4 EV: practical commuter vehicle
- Diesel Jeep Liberty: workhorse
strider
Active Member
Yeah, 4 vehicles would be too much. Your suggestion would be my choice but like I said my wife likes her tall vantage point so Tesla till have to wow her w/ Model S. Though either way we'll be supporting Tesla and getting another EV on the road. We could have worse choices - fun times.
I found a new video for the Rav 4. Interesting the Latitude and Longitude that it shows in the car during the drive show it to be at this address:
No. 10, Lane 43, Sīyuán Rd, Sinjhuang District
New Taipei City, Taiwan 242
It would be interesting if anyone speaks Mandarin that could translate for us.
No. 10, Lane 43, Sīyuán Rd, Sinjhuang District
New Taipei City, Taiwan 242
It would be interesting if anyone speaks Mandarin that could translate for us.
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Favorable press for the Toyota RAV4 EV in Popular Mechanic's take on the LA Auto Show. With lots of pictures, including the Tesla logo on the battery/PEM.
I read in the issue in my doctor's office that this was going to be a fleet vehicle only -- interesting news, if true, but I couldn't confirm it on line anywhere.
I read in the issue in my doctor's office that this was going to be a fleet vehicle only -- interesting news, if true, but I couldn't confirm it on line anywhere.
strider
Active Member
Yeah, the problem is that the Jeep needs some major service done as it's nearing 100k and that's the only vehicle we have in which the baby can ride. Also whenever I want to take my motorcycle to the track I have to rent a car for her or talk one of my friends into towing my trailer for me - it's just a huge hassle. So the sooner the better for us. Though by mid next year we should have seen X prototypes so she may decide that's what she wants in which case that will reinforce the idea of getting a RAV until Model X comes out.
Why do we need spy shots? Toyota showed the Rav2EV at the Plug-in Prius reveal and at the SF area Green Drive Expo.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/efusco/sets/72157627562385671/'
PHV Prius Reveal 164 by efusco, on Flickr
Green Drive Expo-Bay Area 2011 - a set on Flickr
Green Drive Expo Bay Area 2011 016 by efusco, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/efusco/sets/72157627562385671/'
PHV Prius Reveal 164 by efusco, on Flickr
Green Drive Expo-Bay Area 2011 - a set on Flickr
Green Drive Expo Bay Area 2011 016 by efusco, on Flickr
It's weird they go through all that trouble with the tape and such... It's a Rav4, if you don't want people to know it's an EV, just put a fake tailpipe on it and nix the EV badge.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Yeah I didn't get the point on the camouflage tape either. What are they trying to hide? Maybe they did it on purpose to create a buzz :biggrin:
tommolog
Member
Because Toyota isn't serious about it. It's basically a compliance car for them. They are making just enough for ZEV compliance and most of them will be used for fleet sales. Where are they going to be available? I think it's only in CA.
Hi Tom,
Do you think what motivates Toyota is that the cost of batteries is still too expensive to permit them to make a decent profit on the RAV4?
Larry
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
I think the motivation is they are seriously expanding their Prius line, including plug in options, and a real EV would cut into all that investment.
tommolog
Member
Hi Larry,
I really don't know what Toyota's thoughts and strategy is. However when I listen to them speak, it's clear they don't think electric cars are worth much investment at this time. Maybe it's the cost of the batteries, maybe not. It would have been nice if they sold the RAV4 across the country, even if it were only special order. How they are handling the RAV4 EV it would seem like they don't want anybody to know about it, kind of like the first time they made them.
I really don't know what Toyota's thoughts and strategy is. However when I listen to them speak, it's clear they don't think electric cars are worth much investment at this time. Maybe it's the cost of the batteries, maybe not. It would have been nice if they sold the RAV4 across the country, even if it were only special order. How they are handling the RAV4 EV it would seem like they don't want anybody to know about it, kind of like the first time they made them.
Hi Tom,
Yes, it sounds like Toyota is presenting the same symptoms that GM did during the EV-1 days, corporate schizophrenia. That was followed by corporate cannibalism.
Larry
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