"The thing about [Tesla's] Ludicrous mode is that it's a façade"

[yeti]

Apparently, that's what an anonymous(?) Porsche engineer claims when talking about their Mission-e: Porsche Engineer Reportedly Calls Tesla's Ludicrous Mode a "Facade"

I do not have a P90D/L (I have a 70) so I cannot say much in the defense of Tesla.

However, I would definitely trust a Volkswagen engineer to know a thing or two about building facades / "e-Mission" scandals. ;-)

PS: I've owned Porsches for more than a decade and the Model S is the best car I've driven/owned.

 

[brantse]

"Two launches saps the whole battery. That won't be the case with the Mission E. You'll be able to run it hard, over and over; the battery will not overheat, the power control module will not overheat, and the seats will not suck."


Honestly, what are these people thinking? They're still struggling to literally replicate the performance of a ~5 year old vehicle design, not to mention that it will probably cost double that of a comparable MS; and they have the nerve to say stuff like that?

 

[artsci]

Easy for him to say. The Porsche is a concept for now and it's years away. Maybe Porsche knows somethings about batteries that Tesla doesn't but I strongly doubt it.

Plus there's hardly anything original about the Porsche design -- most of it has been lifted directly from Telsa.

 

[malcolm]

Two different mindsets:

Tesla: "let's see what electric and digital technology can do to transform four-wheeled personal transportation"

Porsche: "let's see what electric and digital technology can add to the tried and tested Porsche formula"

Porsche have to maintain "motoring heritage" as well as cars. Too much baggage. The marque becomes a millstone.

 

[Johan]

If the Model S is a facade them the Mission-E is a mirage (doesn't exist).

 

[Todd Burch]

Two launches saps the whole battery?

Given that the first sentence alone is a lie, there's no sense in trusting the rest of it.

 

[tstafford]

I have both a Tesla and Porsche and each is awesome in its own way. If either company can make a BEV sports car that can be tracked, I say terrific. Competition is good. Porsche can say what they want but it's all BS until they put out a product.

 

[ShotgunF15E]

Porsche? What's that? Oh yea, I think it's that little bitty car I keep seeing way back in my rear view mirror.....

 

[DOCAL]

Apparently, that's what an anonymous(?) Porsche engineer claims when talking about their Mission-e: Porsche Engineer Reportedly Calls Tesla's Ludicrous Mode a "Facade"

If you want people to read your article about computers, phones or tablets, mention Apple, preferably with an outrageous claim in the title.
If you want people to read your article about cars, mention Tesla, preferably with an outrageous claim in the title.

 

[jtpassat]

Agree - click bait at it's finest.

If you want people to read your article about computers, phones or tablets, mention Apple, preferably with an outrageous claim in the title.
If you want people to read your article about cars, mention Tesla, preferably with an outrageous claim in the title.

 

[EinSV]

An anonymous Porsche engineer hopes that in about 2020 the Mission E will beat the Model S's 2016 performance? Exciting news.

And here's the description of the anonymous source: a "Porsche engineer that isn't working directly on the Mission E, but seems to know a thing or two about it.

lol

 

[Ames]

A full 1/4 mile drag run where the car launches in Ludicrous Mode with Max Power engaged and reaches around 120 mph, with the return run and wait time for the next launch (keeping Max Power engaged), takes 2.5%. So that would be 40 of those on a single charge. If it is just launches up to say 60 mph then you could do loads more...

 

[DillyBop]

A full 1/4 mile drag run where the car launches in Ludicrous Mode with Max Power engaged and reaches around 120 mph, with the return run and wait time for the next launch (keeping Max Power engaged), takes 2.5%. So that would be 40 of those on a single charge. If it is just launches up to say 60 mph then you could do loads more...

i'm surprised it's even that much. i haven't noticed any additional battery drainage since upgrading my P85D to Ludicrous, and i stand on the pedal quite a bit at all speeds.

honestly the air conditioner uses far more battery power.

 

[scrmn]

"Two launches saps the whole battery?" - Good One

Drove our car last weekend to the closest track (170 km away) made seven passes and drove home
Instagram photo by Street Wheelers Car Club • Jun 11, 2016 at 11:51pm UTC

I think he is a little off on that statement

 

[KublaConn]

"...proclaiming that the Mission E will be a game-changer in the world of electric cars."

Dude, the game's already been changed...and you're losing.

 

[freeewilly]

Porsche CEO says ‘iPhone belongs in your pocket, not on the road’, dismissing autonomous cars

Will you consider to buy a Mission E in 2020 if it doesn't have autopilot or autonomous??

 

[EarlyAdopter]

Hey man, I say bring it on. Tesla set the new benchmark and it's up to everyone else to come to their terms. The more the merrier. Talk is cheap though. Let's see if Porsche can deliver. They better hurry though. Telsa isn't standing still.

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

First you have to make something

Then you can dismiss those who make things that are inferior.

 

[eye.surgeon]

Ludicrous mode isn't the target Porsche has to shoot for. The supercharger network is. Without that an EV is just a city car.

 

[RogerHScott]

Dude, the game's already been changed...and you're losing.

No, he/they aren't even playing this game.