Torn Between Dual Motor LR and Performance [resolved]

[MrSlippery]

I have driven both the M3 AWD with AB, the M3P as well as the AWD Y and performance Y and the speed difference is not that noticeable. You can definitely feel the difference between the AWD standard and performance but even that is not major.

For me the choice is quite simple, if you intend to run the car on a road track the performance model is well worth the $10K price difference (Canadian dollars), you get track mode which is amazing, better brakes, slightly better suspension and performance in addition if you like the Uber rims its a win/win.

If you do not intend to track the car I feel like saving the $10k and spending $2k on AB is a much smarter investment from a on the street or drag strip scenario . Add in another $3-4K for lightweight rims/tires and you are further ahead and have better/lighter wheels versus the performance.

 

[TexasTezla]

Funny how everyone has their own perception of speed from the "really noticeable' to 'not noticeable' etc. For me the difference is very noticeable. Definitely MUCH quicker to 40mph...then the P keeps the distance. Visually the P looks more aggressive too. Lower stance, bigger wheels, much better brakes. If you can afford the P get it. If you prefer range however, get the lower powered LR or SR! I for one am moving away from performance and more to range as a priority for my next vehicle.

 

[MrSlippery]

Funny how everyone has their own perception of speed from the "really noticeable' to 'not noticeable' etc. For me the difference is very noticeable. Definitely MUCH quicker to 40mph...then the P keeps the distance. Visually the P looks more aggressive too. Lower stance, bigger wheels, much better brakes. If you can afford the P get it. If you prefer range however, get the lower powered LR or SR! I for one am moving away from performance and more to range as a priority for my next vehicle.

Quarter mile times show the difference between the LR+AB and 3P to be very close, the P still has a slight edge but its minor. As you said from a roll they are virtually the same, in fact the LR+AB will in many cases pull away given equal SOC. The performance however seems to be consistently quicker off the start.

Me personally I thought there was more value in paying the $2K for AB and buying far lighter rims/tire combo (which also looks better which is again subjective) compared to the 10K performance upcharge on a vehicle I would never take on a road track to actually take advantage of the brakes and track mode (track mode again is amazing IF you have a use for it). You still come out saving $4-5K

 

[ODWms]

If its truly only a $4-5k difference in upfront price, then I’d say the Performance is well worth it, overall. There is some resale value recoup the Performance will bring, all other things being equal.

 

[tezlam3]

i was considering the same but i live in NYC and having the change the tires and worry about pot holes, it was def a no for the P.

 

[Sklith]

I have the Performance with 18" wheels. Best of both worlds.

 

[2021srplus]

My thoughts are that if you're going on a track then you should ONLY be looking at the M3P. Sell the Uberturbines and and use the $$$ get fund some smaller and lighter forged wheels with sticky rubber. If you're never going on a track, you should NEVER be looking at the M3P. Get stickier rubber and/or AB to scratch your performance itch. If you felt the need for AB and sticky rubber and new wheels and upgraded brakes, you should have just gotten the M3P to help with your resale value.

My track urges and performance itches disappeared as I got older, so it's SR+ for me.

 

[MrSlippery]

My thoughts are that if you're going on a track then you should ONLY be looking at the M3P. Sell the Uberturbines and and use the $$$ get fund some smaller and lighter forged wheels with sticky rubber. If you're never going on a track, you should NEVER be looking at the M3P. Get stickier rubber and/or AB to scratch your performance itch. If you felt the need for AB and sticky rubber and new wheels and upgraded brakes, you should have just gotten the M3P to help with your resale value.

My track urges and performance itches disappeared as I got older, so it's SR+ for me.

100% how I feel, aside from the fact I go with the LR AB haha...I am not old enough yet apparently

 

[tezlam3]

I have the Performance with 18" wheels. Best of both worlds.

how do you fit those on the brakes?

 

[Knightshade]

how do you fit those on the brakes?

If it's the P3D- it comes with the same brakes as LR AWD and 18s come on it by default.

If it's a P3D+ they got aftermarket 18s, some of which fit over the P3D+ brakes.

 

[tezlam3]

If it's the P3D- it comes with the same brakes as LR AWD and 18s come on it by default.

If it's a P3D+ they got aftermarket 18s, some of which fit over the P3D+ brakes.

thanks

 

[Sklith]

how do you fit those on the brakes?

Mine came with the regular brakes. You were able to order Performance models like this before, not sure if you still can.

 

[tezlam3]

Mine came with the regular brakes. You were able to order Performance models like this before, not sure if you still can.

ah ok gotcha

 

[Rusty46]

I think this answers a few questions:

 

[SlimJim]

Boosted LR will be even closer

 

[TexasTezla]

I think this answers a few questions:

I think it actually creates a few questions!!!

 

[Ecoli]

mmmm shinny pedaaals...my precious !

 

[Sklith]

I think this answers a few questions:

That's weird, the white LR AWD has red underline badge just like a Performance.

 

[ODWms]

Can that 457 horsepower number for the Performance be right? I thought it was way closer to 500.

 

[Apprunner]

Can that 457 horsepower number for the Performance be right? I thought it was way closer to 500.

That was before the updated power bumps. Go look up dyno videos of the Performance on Youtube and you'll see that they are measuring closer to 520hp at the wheels peak. That makes more sense given it can do 0-60 in 3s.