We recently (08/18/2018) took delivery of a Model 3 Performance. One of my burning questions was how it would do at the track (with me as driver) without any modifications.
I've driven at Oregon Raceway Park (ORP) a number of times (8?) in Model S P85, P85D, P85D, and P100D. All of them run into the power limiter within a minutes (4-6 minutes, 6-8, 6-8, 8-10) when setting Regen to Low. There are at least 3 levels of limiter in the P*D flavors of S -- 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 power. I tend to run short sessions with P*D flavors, and grid as early as I can to have space to run those few minutes and then pull off; with at-track charging @ 30-40A* on a 14-50 the vehicle tends to last the whole day. With the P85, I just lived with the limiter which meant the vehicle wouldn't last a whole day.
* The output was ~232V @ 32A today.
So Beatrice's first track day was @ ORP with HOD (Hooked On Driving) on 08/15/2018. Weather was pretty much perfect -- started in the high 40s, peaked in the mid 70s (F), no precipitation.
The relevant portions of the schedule are for me were:
The distance to the track is roughly 50 miles from the Dalles supercharger and the gate opens a 7, so my aim was to leave a bit over an hour ahead of time so that I had some buffer to allow slow driving (avoid excessive wind resistance tax). I ended up leaving the Dalles with about 305 rated miles, and generally kept cruise between 5 and 0 below the speed limit. Upon arrival, I immediately plugged in.
When the warmup session started at 9 AM, the charge was less than 100% (somewhere above 90% though I think). I did the warmup session a little hotter than I planned, though I don't remember the SOC after. For session 1, I ran a bit hotter -- though we were interrupted early on by a mechanical (black flag all around) -- so shorter session. I believe the SOC was somewhere around 160 rated miles after session 1. After session 2, the SOC was 50 miles -- so session 3 consumed 110 rated miles.
Doing some quick math (like I've done before), I recognized track charging would pretty much be useless for the rest of the day, so I opted to skip track lunch and sessions 3 & 4. I headed back to the Dalles (slowly...because I only had 55 rated miles) to fill up. I arrived at the Dalles at 1:12 PM, and had lunch. I left the Dalles with 299 rated miles, driving slightly more aggressively than the first trip of the day but still conservatively. I arrived with ~225 rated miles at 3:20 PM, with a little breathing room to grab a passenger that had wanted a ride and was on track for session 5 (3:40 PM).
Session 5, I went about 8/10 most of the session and did the full session with 160 rated miles. Session 6 I cut short (exited with 102 rated miels) because I didn't want to drive slow back to the hotel again tonite.
^ I didn't realize I was going to write so much detailed, but I kinda just started babbling.
The car feels significantly better than any Model S I've driven on the track. Despite being completely dry, I felt the back end get light on a few occasions -- something I've never felt in a Model S.
Yes, there is a limiter. Yes, it's not paralyzing like the S limiter. You can feel the difference, but it still feels faster than an S P85 at full power even with the 3 limiter.
Here's what the limiter UI looks like, BTW:
Power consumption info after session 6:
I have another day scheduled for tomorrow @ ORP so if anybody has any requests or suggestions for, um, "research areas" for tomorrow please speak up quickly. I don't plan to be up very late tonite.
I've driven at Oregon Raceway Park (ORP) a number of times (8?) in Model S P85, P85D, P85D, and P100D. All of them run into the power limiter within a minutes (4-6 minutes, 6-8, 6-8, 8-10) when setting Regen to Low. There are at least 3 levels of limiter in the P*D flavors of S -- 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 power. I tend to run short sessions with P*D flavors, and grid as early as I can to have space to run those few minutes and then pull off; with at-track charging @ 30-40A* on a 14-50 the vehicle tends to last the whole day. With the P85, I just lived with the limiter which meant the vehicle wouldn't last a whole day.
* The output was ~232V @ 32A today.
So Beatrice's first track day was @ ORP with HOD (Hooked On Driving) on 08/15/2018. Weather was pretty much perfect -- started in the high 40s, peaked in the mid 70s (F), no precipitation.
The relevant portions of the schedule are for me were:
- 7:00 AM - Gate opens
- 8:00:15-8:30 AM - Driver's meeting
- 9:00-9:15 AM - C/B (combined) groups warmup session 0
- 10:15-10:40 AM - B session 1
- 11:30-11:55 AM - B session 2
- 11:30-1:00 PM - Lunch
- 1:40-2:00 PM - B session 3
- 2:40-3:00 PM - B session 4
- 3:40-4:00 PM - B session 5
- 4:40-5:00 PM - B session 6
The distance to the track is roughly 50 miles from the Dalles supercharger and the gate opens a 7, so my aim was to leave a bit over an hour ahead of time so that I had some buffer to allow slow driving (avoid excessive wind resistance tax). I ended up leaving the Dalles with about 305 rated miles, and generally kept cruise between 5 and 0 below the speed limit. Upon arrival, I immediately plugged in.
When the warmup session started at 9 AM, the charge was less than 100% (somewhere above 90% though I think). I did the warmup session a little hotter than I planned, though I don't remember the SOC after. For session 1, I ran a bit hotter -- though we were interrupted early on by a mechanical (black flag all around) -- so shorter session. I believe the SOC was somewhere around 160 rated miles after session 1. After session 2, the SOC was 50 miles -- so session 3 consumed 110 rated miles.
Doing some quick math (like I've done before), I recognized track charging would pretty much be useless for the rest of the day, so I opted to skip track lunch and sessions 3 & 4. I headed back to the Dalles (slowly...because I only had 55 rated miles) to fill up. I arrived at the Dalles at 1:12 PM, and had lunch. I left the Dalles with 299 rated miles, driving slightly more aggressively than the first trip of the day but still conservatively. I arrived with ~225 rated miles at 3:20 PM, with a little breathing room to grab a passenger that had wanted a ride and was on track for session 5 (3:40 PM).
Session 5, I went about 8/10 most of the session and did the full session with 160 rated miles. Session 6 I cut short (exited with 102 rated miels) because I didn't want to drive slow back to the hotel again tonite.
^ I didn't realize I was going to write so much detailed, but I kinda just started babbling.
The car feels significantly better than any Model S I've driven on the track. Despite being completely dry, I felt the back end get light on a few occasions -- something I've never felt in a Model S.
Yes, there is a limiter. Yes, it's not paralyzing like the S limiter. You can feel the difference, but it still feels faster than an S P85 at full power even with the 3 limiter.
Here's what the limiter UI looks like, BTW:
Power consumption info after session 6:
I have another day scheduled for tomorrow @ ORP so if anybody has any requests or suggestions for, um, "research areas" for tomorrow please speak up quickly. I don't plan to be up very late tonite.
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