ZachF
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Is today "Change your Avatar" day... having a hard time figuring out who's who.
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Tomorrow will be all over the news. CNBC will post an article every hour. No chance for SP recovery.
SA reporting Daniel Kim, head of global sales and marketing, "bolting" from Tesla to Airbnb.
BTW, anyone else find it weird that we still haven't seen a single report of a fire (as far as I can tell) in a customer Model 3? There was that one burned out Model 3 for sale at a junkyard, but it was in Fremont with 1 mile on the odometer, so looked like a factory accident.
An employee of the tire shop said the vehicle was brought in on a tow truck, and he noticed a hissing sound coming from it, then within minutes, the vehicle was on f*re.
Tesla Model S catches fire in California town: Fire Department
I wonder why the car was on a tow truck in the first place?
Model S appears to have caught fire, no collision. Amanda del Castillo on Twitter
OMG Tesla tires can burn!
Wait, tires are made from rubber, rubber is made from oil, oil based cars can catch on fire!!!
Get the car with the least petroleum possible!!!
Wait, isn't that an EV?
Tesla is an EV....
Telsas run on electricity, but they also run on tires, tires are made of rubber, rubber is made of oil so Teslas run on...
Seg Fault
Why would Tesla not go up if the market does ? Infact won't be surprised if Tesla goes up more than others. Afterall, it has gone down more.Bought other stocks in hopes of a Fed bump tomorrow.
mostly (60%) synthetic.Um, I think rubber still comes from a tree, but agree with the sentiment.
You need to be very skeptical of some "institutional holders." GS "holds" just over 1 million shares of TSLA. I'm pretty sure 100% of that is shorted against the box, and they're probably short another couple million shares as well. It's really the only thing that explains their actions.I think it's far more likely an institution owns 5, 10, or 15 million shares of Tesla because they think it is an attractive holding than because it will allow them to manipulate the stock for trading purposes.
I'm not saying their is zero intersection between institutional holders and those who are trading the stock and using manipulative tactics to move the price... I do, however, think that institutions are far from the main source of this activity, and to the extent they might be participating in this game, it's an incidental opportunist move, not their basic strategy to make money via TSLA.
I think hedge funds, and traders more broadly, are much more the groups engaging in the kind of manipulative trading, I'd agree with you is very likely happening.
If you or I were to post this type of 'facts', we would be accused of manipulationThe news is two unfavorable analyst reports from GS and MS - two firms that have consistently been very wrong on Tesla. Amazing that the markets put any credence in the words of analysts that have been so wrong for so long.
1. I was not on AP.OT
Were you on AP? Did it disengage? Were there warning sounds? Did you email the bug report, call, or use the in car bug report?
Dividends are for companies who feel that they've run out of markets that they can effectively take over.
Tesla isn't even close to that. Maybe about 20 factories from now they'll have spare cash to pay out. But no time soon. Tesla is a growth stock, not a dividend stock. It's actually a big advantage they have over their competitors, which are burdened with investor expectations of earning a dividend on their holdings.
Hmmmm. Shareholders own the company. So the intrinsic value is not zero. For eg. The company can be taken over by another company and you get paid a lot for your shares. So, the company never paid any dividend, but was valuable.Yes, but the value of a growth stock is because it will eventually pay out in dividends much more that the current share price. It has to hit dividend territory at some point, or its intrinsic value is zero. You can’t eat shares. You can sell them at a profit, yes, but only because the buyer sees intrinsic value, which exists only because of potential dividend.
Even if no dividend in sight, it’s not wrong to talk about dividend.
True,
heat in a fast charged cell causes expansion. Like wise, cooling of the cell causes retraction. In 'short', all of those cycles will cause microscopic fractures in the cell. This leads to early cell failures.
Each cell can remove itself from the pack by fuse links thereby preventing further damage by trying to charge a cell with high resistance - possible fire.
It is best to charge a cell, at a speed which limits this rapid heating and also draw down the cell in a like manner. This is why Tesla's BMS is world class.
1. I was not on AP.
2. N/A
3. No
4. I used the in-car bug report.
Now, I do not consider this a bug, per se. It Is Known that the car needs weight in the driver's seat to activate its Go feature - and if you're a Tesla owner and you did not know this, you do now, and I suggest you go ahead and try it in the safety of your driveway at 2 or 3 mph. At any rate, it is $!#%^&* scary to experience that at high speed! And I'm really curious to learn exactly what it was trying to do for those 1-3 seconds of in-cabin terror.