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Chickenlittle
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Years do not cause recession
Depending on your long range price target, that just means buy buy buy buy buy buy buy hold hold hold...
Except for once a year when you have to sell due to RMD on your IRA... (looking like I should have done that last week).
Here's an older but intuitive price map:
It's 5 years old so a bit dated, prices have come down a bit in some of these areas, but this map shows the general distribution of cost of electricity. 20-25 cents per kWh is a good rule of thumb for residential electricity, in western Europe.
Note that in many markets you can get cheaper overnight electricity plans in the $10c range (sometimes less), which will skew these costs. Nothing will beat the almost-free Texas overnight wind electricity prices though.
This also suggests that the Model 3 will be non-linearly more popular in Eastern Europe, which has similar gasoline prices with high tax content, but much lower (often subsidized) electricity prices. The main barrier to EV adoption there is the high cost of the cars - the Standard Range Model 3 will be a big hit there.
Thanks FC. Very helpful. In terms of energy-dollars, I get about 100 mpg-e (with gas at say, $3.10/gal). It looks like, in some cases in Europe, with gas in the $6-7 range, that around 200 mpg-e could be achieved. No??
Krugerrand
Meow
Except someone just posted a page or so ago that they were informed Tesla would be delivering cars 12/23-12/31 from 6am-12am (midnight). Another forum member also just said they’ve volunteered to help at their local store/SC on the 30th & 31st
As another point of reference, employees apparently worked right on thru Thanksgiving at Gigafactory.
And another point of reference - employees generally get some time off in the New Year and it’s been that way since I’ve been following Tesla.
None of that sounds anything like you’re implying, but rather the opposite. It’s full bore at Tesla the last two weeks at Tesla right thru AND during holidays. And there are plenty of shoppers and gift receivers during that time. Getting cars for Christmas has been the ultimate holiday gift for decades according to all those OEM commercials.
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The 240v standard in Europe will help EV demand too. One of my concerns buying a Tesla was not having 240v in the garage, having to deal with house modifications & contractors, etc.
Someone had mentioned Europeans favor smaller engines, but I think that is mostly due to taxes based on engine displacement, not because they undervalue acceleration. I think the Model 3 will do very well in Europe, and not just the slower versions.
Someone had mentioned Europeans favor smaller engines, but I think that is mostly due to taxes based on engine displacement, not because they undervalue acceleration. I think the Model 3 will do very well in Europe, and not just the slower versions.
Zhelko Dimic
Careful bull
I take exception to this statement. Last couple of years have been unbearable, but current coverage is relatively benign. No, it's not balanced, but it doesn't feel driven by that malicious force that was present in the past.
As such, I suspect we're seeing relatively natural SP reactions.
I am saying this from the perspective of 'bad guys could come back out', don't be caught flat footed. I feel it's an error to assess situation incorrectly. Some of the demand worries are natural market behaviours, as in market for any stock will always worry about something. Most often next quarter results, whether there is a reason or not.
Krugerrand
Meow
I’m betting than over the next 30 days there will be a chance for a same or lower price and the tax loss now becomes a gain then. Depends on how big the loss is. If it’s not 10% or more then I’d just ride it out. We’re going to see lower prices IMHO of probably 5%+ before any ATH or higher.
Like all things in life it’s about timing. At this point one would have to wait till end of Jan to rebuy the STOCK. Wash sale rules don’t allow buyers to buy a call option without triggering the wash sale rule. The opposite isn’t true though which is odd. Anyhow. Within 30 days we’ll have a lower entry point. 45+ days we’ll have a higher price- than today’s. That’s my thesis that im wrapping my options contracts around.
Notarecommmedationtobuyorsell
Currently down in premarket (9:18 eastern) on 51k volume.
Max pain at 345 (~$15 higher) per Opricot Open Interest|Volume|Max Pain
Interesting times.
Max pain at 345 (~$15 higher) per Opricot Open Interest|Volume|Max Pain
Interesting times.
Yes as Anton adequately explained in his Seeking Lies article, I-Pace sales crushed Tesla in Norway on Nov-01, between 10 am and 3:45 pm
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I can see that the Shorts are taking this advice seriously - entering low and exiting high - when it comes to Tesla
cheshire cat
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cheshire cat
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All the lithium stocks are getting hammered for some reason and I'm not sure why. ALB LTHM SQM TSLA (and thus LIT)...
As I told, TSLA is going down to sub 300$ before Christmas. I guess a bounce will happen at 275.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
anthonyj
Stonks
Can’t believe I dug myself out of the $420 funding secured hole, and now I have to dig myself out of this...
That has to be the first 20% drop in one week of any stock on no news at all.
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