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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Excel spreadsheet available from NASDAQ here. What times are you interested in? I'll add'em up for you.
Cheers!
Drumheller
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If there is nothing to contribute then the thread should be silent.
Why is it so difficult to understand that some people use this thread as a valuable investment resource and the off-topic noise has devalued the thread? Why is it so difficult to take other conversations to other threads, as intended by the design of forum software?
I'll look around and see if I can find another place with valuable discussion. It seems most people are content to let this thread go to *sugar*.
US politics can have direct consequences on both Tesla and $TSLA SP. For sure, debates about whether the current POTUS is an idiot, imbecile, moron or cretin, aren't necessarily relevant, but the policies, rhetoric and tantrums of his and his regime, often are.
Also, the suitability of Tesla's current and future models versus the practicality in some localities also has a bearing on their success and prospects.
Electric tanks though, agreed, not particularly relevant, but OK for an out-of-hours or weekend discussion.
I can't believe how flat the price action has been today. A part of me attributes it to a large holder selling because if it was someone shorting they would have sold everything all at once to try to cause downward price movement. I don't know, anyone have other ideas? Then they sold a bunch at the end of the day hoping to get a bit more support at the close and take a bigger chunk out of their position.
Well, I feel silly for not guessing this one. The shorts had a nice dip going and didn't want to chance a push down and bounce with a half hour to go, so they waiting for the final 10 minutes and achieved their dip into close.
The thing is, these trading patterns which we predict and joke about are clear examples of price manipulation. They are illegal and the SEC lacks the will to investigate and go after these people. Looks like the solution is to realize the SEC is not capable of ensuring the markets are a fair casino. Either the NASDAQ has to move forward with its proposed rules regarding short selling disclosures or we ought to start pestering our reps in Congress to amend the laws. The problem with such blatant short seller manipulations is that it destroys wealth and threatens otherwise viable companies. There's a good argument for seeking reforms.
The thing is, these trading patterns which we predict and joke about are clear examples of price manipulation. They are illegal and the SEC lacks the will to investigate and go after these people. Looks like the solution is to realize the SEC is not capable of ensuring the markets are a fair casino. Either the NASDAQ has to move forward with its proposed rules regarding short selling disclosures or we ought to start pestering our reps in Congress to amend the laws. The problem with such blatant short seller manipulations is that it destroys wealth and threatens otherwise viable companies. There's a good argument for seeking reforms.
Since it is a public forum I would say some including myself enjoy most posts here. Even the wild off topic usually have some merit.
If one only wants dry investment advice them maybe look elsewhere.
When the thread gets too burdened by noise it has a way of self healing.
Be careful what you wish for.
If one only wants dry investment advice them maybe look elsewhere.
When the thread gets too burdened by noise it has a way of self healing.
Be careful what you wish for.
Nevermind... the Yahoo chart was fine, but the mobile E-Trade still shows no action at all. Maybe it's just me, think I'll either pound a 5 hour energy or take a nap...
A CEO announces an upcoming over-the-air-upgrade to his company's electric cars to improve the neural net that runs the windshield wipers, and nobody bats an eye to any part of that.
I love living in the future.
I love living in the future.
Total volume was 3 million and typical is somewhere around 7. I think at these levels, nobody is taking a large position in either direction.
A CEO announces an upcoming over-the-air-upgrade to his company's electric cars to improve the neural net that runs the windshield wipers, and nobody bats an eye to any part of that.
I love living in the future.
I thought the wipers were already NN controlled? That came about a year back, no?
wjhepworth
Member
Just a curiosity but is this an effect of the newer and "kind of" quieter Elon on the Tesla front? As somebody mentioned earlier.. time for an Elon tweet to wake everyone up.
Maybe, but I’m happy to keep it this way and just wait for deliveries and earnings reports.
phigment
Member
That's why she said, "improve the NN."
Nope. It's time for Tesla to stay quiet and execute the *sugar* out of this quarter and show record deliveries on Jan 3 and record profit and cash flow the first week of February.
In the meantime, let everybody be dazzled bay magic unicorns that come to market in 2-3 years.
Most rank and file in the construction crafts (at least on fly-over country projects) have no qualms about putting their cards in their shoes and working open-shop, if that is who has the work. The invidious unions are public worker unions who negotiate with governmental employers--look at how many municipalities have terrible credit ratings because of unfunded health and retirement benefits as payback for political contributions to mayors and council members by the union "bosses."
mmd
Active Member
Exactly! The logic in some arguments here are mind boggling. I wonder if people really think like that, or just pretend to be thinking like that on this forum.
So, Tesla is supply constrained for MS+MX, yet offers 1% interest loans in Norway while borrowing at ~5% with its junk bonds? Total loss is 16% over 4 years.
So, Tesla and Elon decided to sell only 100K of its $100K MS+MX a year to solve the global warming issue? While leaving the rest of the ~90M car market, including the low mpg luxury large sedan market to Mercedes, Audi, BMW and others?
And yet, the claim is that Tesla will somehow drive every other automaker bankwupt?
The question is why limit to 100K? Is selling more MS+MX going to cause excessive global cooling, that in turn will cause Model 3 doors and windows to freeze? Hmm, sounds convincing indeed!
2017 (Full Year) China and Worldwide German Luxury Car Sales - Car Sales Statistics
Not always. You may like to think that all shorts sell low and buy high. But they may not oblige your dreams. Here is Chanos, for example, shorting the #fake420Goprivate tweet. He might have covered now. Who knows.
How Jim Chanos Uses Cynicism, Chutzpah — and a Secret Twitter Account — to Take on Markets (and Elon Musk)
What's wrong with mixing the HOD in this thread with some FUD to balance the picture?
What does HOD mean? HOD Definition. Meaning of HOD. OnlineSlangDictionary.com
After hours offtopic:
Chinese buyers of Tesla and other EVs get automatic enrollment into government surveillance program: Report: The Chinese government is spying on Tesla and other EV drivers without consent
Getting harder to live off the grid with these high-tech upgrades.
Chinese buyers of Tesla and other EVs get automatic enrollment into government surveillance program: Report: The Chinese government is spying on Tesla and other EV drivers without consent
Getting harder to live off the grid with these high-tech upgrades.
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