U.K. Hyundai Ioniq Review includes EV

[RubberToe]

insideevs is reporting the car goes on sale this week! A dealer search and Hyundia inventory search shows no availability though. The dealer search pulldown doesn't even show the Ionic Electric as a selectable option, Hyundai site either...

Hyundai IONIQ Electric To Go On Sale In U.S. This Week

 

[RubberToe]

Glendale (Ca.) Hyundai said they would be getting the Ioniq sometime in March. Thats the only Hyundai dealer that I called yesterday. If anyone hears about any other dealers getting one before then please let us know.

RT

 

[tenstringer009]

Just got this in my inbox...will be interesting to see if Tesla decides to match the lifetime battery warranty when the Model 3 hits the streets.

 

[Zaxxon]

I got that email, as well. I'd be interested to see the fine print--the email just mentions 'failure.' I wonder if they have a degradation clause.

 

[gene]

It is only a complete failure warranty. No warranty for range of which they will claim is normal wear.

¹The Lifetime Battery Warranty applies to all U.S. 2017 model-year IONIQ vehicles. The Lifetime Battery Warranty ensures that if the lithium-ion polymer battery fails, Hyundai will replace the battery and cover recycling costs for the old battery free of charge to the original owner. The Lifetime Battery Warranty excludes coverage for vehicles placed in commercial use (e.g., taxi, route delivery, rental, etc.).

 

[Zaxxon]

Are you basing that solely on the text you quoted? I'm curious as to the full warranty verbiage. Even Nissan covers degradation (abnormal, at least).

 

[mtndrew1]

Are you basing that solely on the text you quoted? I'm curious as to the full warranty verbiage. Even Nissan covers degradation (abnormal, at least).

If it's anything like their Kia division's Soul EV the warranty will guarantee no more than 30% degradation in ten years or 100,000 miles. I suspect the "lifetime" warranty is just against a complete failure and (if like other Hyundai warranties) only follows the original owner.

 

[Zaxxon]

Thanks. I just bought a Leaf so it doesn't really impact me, but I'm curious.

 

[RubberToe]

U.S. Pricing of $29,500 and $32,500 before incentives. Looks to hit Santa Barbara first:

Hyundai announces highly competitive pricing for IONIQ Electric in the US: $29,500 before incentive (under $20,000 in CA after)

 

[Dutchie]

U.S. Pricing of $29,500 and $32,500 before incentives. Looks to hit Santa Barbara first:

Hyundai announces highly competitive pricing for IONIQ Electric in the US: $29,500 before incentive (under $20,000 in CA after)

That is an amazing price, especially with the incentives! This car be a great hit (game changer?) I don't know how Hyundai can do it and if they can bring enough of these cars in, but this really great news.

 

[SageBrush]

Electrek says $30k for a 28 kWh battery and 124 mile range.

I've pre-ordered a big bag of popcorn, because this is going to be a sh1tshow come winter.

 

[mtndrew1]

This is my new "Model 3 didn't get here by my lease expiration date" front runner.

Keep in mind it's 28 kWh usable. That feature set for that price is very compelling.

 

[McRat]

Did Kia/Hyundai resolve the premature cell decay shown during the INL testing? Or is the Ioniq going to have different cells than the Soul EV?

https://avt.inl.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/fsev/batterySoul1908.pdf

10% loss of capacity in 12,000 miles.

 

[mtndrew1]

Did Kia/Hyundai resolve the premature cell decay shown during the INL testing? Or is the Ioniq going to have different cells than the Soul EV?

https://avt.inl.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/fsev/batterySoul1908.pdf

10% loss of capacity in 12,000 miles.

Unfortunately this is largely par for the course for the BEV batteries tested in this manner. These test cars are charged to 100% and baked outdoors in the Arizona heat; the test is as brutal as they come for BEVs .

The Ioniq uses cells from LG Chem while the Soul EV uses sells from SK Innovation. Only time will tell how the LGs in the Ioniq degrade in extreme circumstances but LG cells in the Spark EV and Focus EV degraded similarly to the Soul's SKI cells:

~4% degradation over 4,000 miles (the only data point available)
https://avt.inl.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/fsev/batterySpark4878.pdf

~9.5% degradation over 12,000 miles
https://avt.inl.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/fsev/batteryFocus1700.pdf

There have likely been some chemistry advancements but I suspect the Ioniq's batteries (when subject to the same conditions) will fare similarly to the other LG Chem BEVs.

 

[gene]

This video gives you a really good idea of the interior and exterior details of the Ioniq