Tesla committed to implementing auto wipers via image processing (no moisture sensor) before making it work adequately. Hopefully they'll succeed someday but meanwhile we wish for a control stalk and failing that, a touch screen UI that we can operate with minimal eyes off the road.
(I learned a trick from another thread to push the stalk wiper button with the hand that's also steering so the other hand is available to operate the short-lived wiper pop up panel.)
The car has a bunch of these features that often need manual overrides, like auto-profile selection. V11 just made those UI overrides worse.
I mentally separated the interface from the car not working the way it should. Moving profiles and w/swipes and heated seats are all fine interface decisions…if and only if the device they control work as they should.
That’s why I’m adamant that v11 is fine. It’s not the v11 changes that are the problem. It’s the other part of the equation. Things do not work as they should, putting more pressure on the interface to accommodate these issues.
I sat we shouldn’t be upset with the interface and pressure Tesla to change it or change it back, but rather we should be upset that the automation Tesla uses is unreliable and needs to be fixed.
I get that the two are intimately related. But when I argue in favor of v11’s changes, it’s done with the assumption that these automated items work or soon will. I’ve only had the car for (nearly) 7 months. I think my expectations that they will fix them haven’t been crushed yet. I’m still blissfully hopeful.
I think that’s where my frustration came from. Many people here were NOT separating the interface and the expectation that automation will work. They’re upset because the changes made to the interface make the fact that automation doesn’t work even more glaring.
That may be a subtle difference to some, but my logical brain wasn’t seeing it. (And yes, that pisses off my wife sometimes too).
Now that I see those things are being lumped together. I get it.
The w/s wiper change interface change is not a safety issue…IF automated wipers actually worked.
The heated seats interface change is not an issue…if automated heated seats actually work. (Except they keep getting turned to manual on my car, I think because I’m using the api to connect to my calendar and turn them on before trips? Not sure. But it’s annoying!)
Defrost? That seems a problem bo matter what. Maybe we’re spoiled not wanting to click twice, but that does seem like a thing that should be easily available while driving.
I still think they’re headed in the right direction with this. Everything needs to be customizable. I want different things always accessible in winter (defrost, heated seats) than in summer even. I think they’re going that way, I HOPE they’re going that way, but they’re not there yet.
And by the way, I don’t care if people agree with me or not. But I expect (wrong or right) some thoughtful reasons for the disagreement. That’s what I’m here for. I didn’t feel like I was getting that, until sporty woke me up and made me see what was going on. It was like one of those bad dreams where you’re screaming for help and no one can hear you.
I do owe DrDabbles an apology. I was rude to him and it was uncalled for. Sorry, Dr D. Seriously.